Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Heat it and beat it Bruno's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    15,141
    Thanked: 5236
    Blog Entries
    10

    Default Starting to hate high grit belts

    I was making a knife, and using belts to get to the higher grits.
    Every time I nearly had it, there was a grit particle, or perhaps a fray, or perhaps just a clumsy movement, and a fresh deep scratch appeared in the polished surface.

    With the last attempt I tried to correct it and made it so bad I had to go back to the lowest grit. Now I am just handsanding the blade before taking it to a buffer.
    Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
    To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day

  2. #2
    Bladesmith by Knight Adam G.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Murrumba Downs, Queensland, Australia.
    Posts
    571
    Thanked: 203

    Default

    yeah - know that feeling. i have had this happen many times. Sometimes i think the belt has an odd piece of grit, and sometimes i think an imperfection in the steel. Mostly it may be me. i ususally finish to 600 grit before heat treat. Then hand sand from 400 {yep - backwards} then 600 & 800. Then heat treat. After that it's back down to 360 hand sanding with water, right up to 2000 through all the grits i have available. It is definitely an exercise in patience.
    The answer {which i have not yet explored} may be a combination of the best quality belts you can find, plus a variable speed grinder that can be slowed right down on the fine grits.
    Whatever the method found, patience is key.
    Regards Adam.
    Respectfully,
    Adam.

  3. #3
    Senior Member PDobson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Butte, Montana
    Posts
    184
    Thanked: 60

    Default

    I'm curious what type of belt you are using.

    My problem with fine belts was that it showed every error from the previous grits. I also used to have problems with errant scratches until I started storing the belts outside of the equipment room. For the record, I'm using Norax abrasives.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Corcoran, Minnesota
    Posts
    665
    Thanked: 170

    Default

    My rule is, the finer the belt, the slower the speed. Also, slower that that after heat treating. My grinder is a 10 speed, with a treadmill motor. I like PDobson's idea about storing belts in a clean environment.

  5. #5
    Senior Member deighaingeal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Yakima, Wa
    Posts
    1,955
    Thanked: 494

    Default

    Interesting, I think that my solution would be to ask Phil's mother to hand-sand it for me.
    I like Phil's idea as well.

  6. #6
    The Shell Whisperer Maximilian's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Sin City
    Posts
    5,597
    Thanked: 3384

    Default

    I've never had errant scratch issue with any of my belts whatever the grit or speed used. The new unused belts do hang on the opposite side of my shop away from my grinders and other power tools. The ones I use hang next to my grinder at hands reach.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    701
    Thanked: 182

    Default

    look into then3m gator belts they now have them to A30 and notron makes even finer ones slightly different build

    the highest std. style belt i have in the shop any more is 120 grit

  8. #8
    Senior Member Sasquatch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Northampton, England
    Posts
    324
    Thanked: 68

    Default

    Hand sanding for me the same as Adam's approach. Everything I do takes time and patience as I use a file and diy jig to set my bevels and a rasp to rough out handle shapes then it's all done with elbow grease and sandpaper.

    I've found if I'm doing full flat grinds the quickest way to polish the blade is to wrap various grades of wet/dry round my file and spray with WD-40 and use the same jig I set the bevels with to clean the blade up. Then all I have to do to finish it is a quick hand sand followed by a good rub of Autosol and leather to get the finish where I want it.

    Your problem with the random scratch on the higher grades is the only good reason I can think of to not having a belt sander! Basically it's a problem I wish I had if you get me. Hope you find a suitable solution!

  9. #9
    Senior Member Sasquatch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Northampton, England
    Posts
    324
    Thanked: 68

    Default

    I know this isn't a knife forum but what kind of knives do you fellas make for the most part? Just curious...

  10. #10
    Senior Member Sasquatch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Northampton, England
    Posts
    324
    Thanked: 68

    Default

    Apologies for the thread hijack but I really am curious to see what others on here do for knives! Here's my latest, I still need to polish the steel then it's done.









    As mentioned earlier I do all this by hand with a file and jig and rasps and sandpaper and water stones, go easy on me! Any chance of a pic of what you guys do?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •