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    hi SRP ,
    Two kamisori in progress , the fisrt one is raw forged , en the little one is ready for water quenching ....

    all in hi carbon steel ( 1,3%) in soft steel ( 0,45%)

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    stay tuned ! ;-)

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    ..........
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    cool, so you forgewelded the steels? some grinding was involved i guess?

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    No finished pics? This is custom builts and restorations. Mabey a Workshop thread? Looks great so far! Surely better than I could do! Good luck! looks like a great start!

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    Moving this to the forge.

    If I may ask, why 1.3%? isn't that much too high (meaning, much higher than necessary)?
    Tamahagane starts at that when they begin the folding process. By the time they're done, it's closer to 0.7 or 0.8.
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    thank you for moving , i've never see this section !

    so , the kamisori is finished :
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    @Bruno :
    it's never too much
    This steel has a very fine structure, it is ideal for this kind of tools. one of my favorit steel , with 145sc .
    i have a small piece of Tamahagane from Iwasaki ,But I do not dare ( is it correct "dare" ? ) to use it
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    The grind looks a bit 'off' near the heel. What I mean is: you lay it flat on the hone so that the edge is completely on the stone. Doesn't the part near the heel then lift the spine from the stone, because it is ground less deep? The line of the edge should have a line running in parallel on the spine (if that makes sense). If that is not the case, the razor might 'wobble' during honing. That is, unless the tang gets progressively narrower at that point to compensate.

    Additionally, have you measured the honing angle / angle of the edge?
    15 to 17 is roughly the sweet spot you should aim for. If you go much lower than that, your razor will become rather difficult to hone and have less than ideal edge retention.

    Nice work btw. I always like seeing forged items. I am still making monosteel knives because I am not yet confident enough in my skill to start forge welding.
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    Man it looks nice! Very traditional! I am anxious to see the larger one as it is completed!
    Where are you located, Bryan?
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    They look fantastic! Keep us updated, please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    The grind looks a bit 'off' near the heel. What I mean is: you lay it flat on the hone so that the edge is completely on the stone. Doesn't the part near the heel then lift the spine from the stone, because it is ground less deep? The line of the edge should have a line running in parallel on the spine (if that makes sense). If that is not the case, the razor might 'wobble' during honing. That is, unless the tang gets progressively narrower at that point to compensate.

    Additionally, have you measured the honing angle / angle of the edge?
    15 to 17 is roughly the sweet spot you should aim for. If you go much lower than that, your razor will become rather difficult to hone and have less than ideal edge retention.

    Nice work btw. I always like seeing forged items. I am still making monosteel knives because I am not yet confident enough in my skill to start forge welding.
    bruno , i'm nut sure to understand what you mean , but all the edge is on the stone .
    for the angle , i'm at 14° in this one .

    @sharptonn : thnak you , i'm in France , that why my english is very poor

    the next one look's like that before quenching :

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