good reminder . I like my fires and flames outdoors. I may attract a gabby neighbor or 2 but they will have to talk between the pounding :<0) Which reminds me,,, I did forget something that I can wait on while I build. An anvil. I thought I posted something about this but I sure can't find it now. I may have started and canceled. Anyways.... I was thinking of getting a Cliff Carrol but I read more against than for them. I know it is designed for farriers and the posts I have looked at are forge guys mostly. I know there are many alternatives but I am dead set on having an anvil that looks like an anvil. I was going to go for a 35lb. but have decided a 70lb. would let me grow some. If I need a 200 or 800lb. later then so be it. I have also looked at NCs and I do like the look of the Calvalry model ,but same kind of reviews. I think it is because of where I am reading the reviews. I just want to be sure I am not wasting 300+ on something I will kill in a couple of months if I make my own tools on it. The usual tongs, some hammers and such. I am not new to hammering iron and have used other things as anvils. I even made a huge vise that I mounted on a rather large gluelam/workbench I made. 10 pound slugo hammering. :<0). I was young once. Finding a used anvil around here is as hard as finding that post i could of sworn I made on this anvil thing. If anybody knows of a good anvil in or around OC Ca. let me know. If you find that other post and send me a link and I'll kill it.