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    I tried the edge of a sharp razor with hones by members experienced "Firestar, Izlat and LX_emergency, thanks for you help" and I find I need more acuity. I work combined with hone and diamond pastes with very good results and got more acuity. A friend has given me shavette and I liked the shave.

    Can a straight shave like a shavette?

    It is something impossible?

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    Once you get your shaving technique and your stropping and honing skills finely tuned, you can do better then a shavette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenrup View Post
    Once you get your shaving technique and your stropping and honing skills finely tuned, you can do better then a shavette.
    Shaving wise, yes.
    You can can get a much better shave from a real straight than from a shavette or feather. At least I find it so.
    But making a razor sharper than a shavette is practically impossible.

    I have a feather AC, and the pro blades are sharper than anything else I've ever handled, but the shaves are less comfortable than those from my regular blades.
    There is more to a shave than just a sharp razor.
    Technique counts for a lot, as does good lather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Shaving wise, yes.
    You can can get a much better shave from a real straight than from a shavette or feather. At least I find it so.
    But making a razor sharper than a shavette is practically impossible.

    I have a feather AC, and the pro blades are sharper than anything else I've ever handled, but the shaves are less comfortable than those from my regular blades.
    There is more to a shave than just a sharp razor.
    Technique counts for a lot, as does good lather.
    This is what we wanted to know.
    For my shavete is very comfortable shave.
    I used the same technique. While my straights now are very very acute, very plus with sharpening with hone only by user experimented, I like the sharpness shavette. For my shaving of shavette is NIRVANA. My beard is too thick
    But now it is not possible to get the same thing with a straight ...

    Thanks and Greetings

    Dioni

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    Hang on, I never said it was not possible to get an equivalent shave, but you cannot use a real blade with the same technique as a shavette and get a good result.

    This is something that you have to learn, which takes time.\Also some people like to use heavier blades for thick beards. Maybe a 7/8 half hollow or quarter hollow would be easier for you to shave with.

    But ultimately, shavettes and real straights are 2 different things, and they require different technique. I think that is where your problem is (together perhaps with blade type)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    you cannot use a real blade with the same technique as a shavette and get a good result.

    This is something that you have to learn, which takes time.

    But ultimately, shavettes and real straights are 2 different things, and they require different technique. I think that is where your problem is
    I fully agree with Bruno here. A straight is a totally different ballgame and because of the difference in sharpness, etc. the straight demands a different technique. Once you master that technique, it is more comfortable and rewarding I'd say.

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    Dioni, I still think you need to modify your blade angle. More parallel to the skin for the first pass and you raise up the back for the second pass. The other thing that could be useful is to strop between passes. Tough stubble can beat up the edge.

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    I also have a pretty thick beard. I started out with a shavette, and prefer the normal straight. While I can get a good shave with either, I like the feel (solid) of the straight, and the smoothness. The shavette was a little scratchy.

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    Acuity=Stropping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Hang on, I never said it was not possible to get an equivalent shave, but you cannot use a real blade with the same technique as a shavette and get a good result.

    This is something that you have to learn, which takes time.\Also some people like to use heavier blades for thick beards. Maybe a 7/8 half hollow or quarter hollow would be easier for you to shave with.

    But ultimately, shavettes and real straights are 2 different things, and they require different technique. I think that is where your problem is (together perhaps with blade type)
    I will continue to work on my technique as you suggest

    Quote Originally Posted by Philadelph View Post
    I fully agree with Bruno here. A straight is a totally different ballgame and because of the difference in sharpness, etc. the straight demands a different technique. Once you master that technique, it is more comfortable and rewarding I'd say.
    I will continue to work on my technique as you suggest

    Quote Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT View Post
    Dioni, I still think you need to modify your blade angle. More parallel to the skin for the first pass and you raise up the back for the second pass. The other thing that could be useful is to strop between passes. Tough stubble can beat up the edge.
    Firestart, I have done according to you, I suggested, and I have worked very well. Now I leaf much more flat and goes much better.
    Is not really a problem is that with shaving shavette is very different.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stilley30 View Post
    I also have a pretty thick beard. I started out with a shavette, and prefer the normal straight. While I can get a good shave with either, I like the feel (solid) of the straight, and the smoothness. The shavette was a little scratchy.
    If you have a thick beard and get a shave as good as a shavette clear that this is technique, technique and technique

    Quote Originally Posted by AFDavis11 View Post
    Acuity=Stropping
    When my straight stroping seems too adhere to leather. Instead stroping when I hand in my palm works much better. Get my shaving menton a single pass without any irritation with mi straight.

    Thanks to all for your valious helps

    Greetings

    Dioni

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