When I saw this thread earlier I followed the link, added the dvd to my cart, and before I knew it I'd added a shapton 16k and a shavemac silvertip to my cart as well. But miraculously, when I tried to check out, the site went into maintenance mode. Whew. I've had a little time to come to my senses since then, but dang that 16k is still calling my name...