Thread: Meat chopper or not a meat chopper?

Originally Posted by mparker762

In what way does that *not* look like a meat cleaver?

Oh boy, let me count the ways. the hollow grind being the big one. It doesn't look like any of the meat cleavers I've had or worked with or seen in the stores. I'll leave it at that

Originally Posted by JLStorm

(dont make me have to start another poll)

Not being rude here but I'll apologize in advance if it sounds that way.

Polls don't change facts. It only shows how many people understand or misunderstand something. If everyone that takes a poll is an idiot then the poll will only reflect the stupidity of the masses, and their lack of understanding of the facts.

here's a good example:

Poll:
"Is a standard ruby colored RED?"

answers:
100 color blind idiots "NO!"

1 jeweler "Basically yes"

4 politically correct aspiring politicians "It's all relative! They're both right!"

Bill Clinton "That depends on how you define 'is' "


Who's correct? if everything is relative then I'm the king of the universe (we all know that's not true )

Originally Posted by FUD

Oh boy, let me count the ways. the hollow grind being the big one. It doesn't look like any of the meat cleavers I've had or worked with or seen in the stores. I'll leave it at that

The hollow grind was the big one I could see as well, but I've seen hollow ground W&Bs described as meat choppers as well.

So the consensus is that a "meat chopper" razor must be 8/8, with a wedge grind and with the point end thicker than the heel end. Any other requirements? Is the notch a requirement, or merely optional?

I don't think there's any consensus to reach. It either is or isn't.

I would add this for those who think it's a just matter of popular opinion. If you have a razor you want to be a meat chopper you must give it to me for free. Once I own it, if I agree that it's a meat chopper then it becomes one at least until I no longer own it

My opinions are very popular with me

I've never seen a meatchopper that wasn't made in Sheffield yet. The big "Barber's Use" blades are what is typically referred to as a meatchopper. They're sturdy. They're got a very broad spine and thick blade. They may be spike points or notch points. They're NEVER round points. There were a few makers of these blades, so it doesn't have to be a Wade and Butcher, but in my opinion, it does have to be of that genre and does have to be made in Sheffield, England.

The term is essentially a colloquial one likely stemming from England which is why Sheffield is implied. I think of anything 7/8 or over regardless of the grind, but do tend to think of them as Robert does.

The French use the term 'coup chou' or cabbage cutter and tend to use it more liberally for almost any 'cutthroat'.

X

I dunno....I have seen the blades that Bill puts in his Meat Chopper section and they do not have the shape you mention....so are you saying Bill is wrong????????? Hehe j/k

I'll always consider anything 8/8 a meat chopper even if its not a wedge...those are hard to find....my henckels could lop of a lip pretty easily and are heavy as hell....thats my criteria I guess....

Does this mean that the term Meat Chopper and Lip Lopper have two different meanings and Bill and I have been using the wrong terminology....ok truth be told this has nothing to do with Bill....I just feel so special and worthy when I get to be mentioned in the same sentence as him...lol

Originally Posted by JLStorm

I dunno....I have seen the blades that Bill puts in his Meat Chopper section and they do not have the shape you mention....so are you saying Bill is wrong????????? Hehe j/k

Just looked at Bills site and there seems to be a need for a poll!
I wouldn't say Bill is wrong but I would agree that everyone has there own opinion on the subject and it is a free country (world).
On a website like Bill's, could you imagine how many different catagorys of razors you would have if you were concerned what catagory they where supposed to be in?

Glen

This is like the soda vs pop debate

Originally Posted by SharkHat

This is like the soda vs pop debate

I agree....Everytime I look I can't believe it is still going on....Aggghhhh