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    What I am about to say might be considered blasphemy on this site but here it is anyway. My straights are put away and oiled in anticipation of leaving on holiday overseas in a couple of days. This morning the shave was with what I will use on the trip, Arko, old nondescript boar brush and a 2 bladed disposable razor bought at the Dollar Store for you guessed it, 1 dollar complete with spare blade heads. The razor is made by Personna BTW.

    No prep other than to wet my face with hot water, lathered up, shaved and finished with my usual splash of Thayers Original. I did my normal 3 pass shave and was rewarded with shave that was no better or worse than I get with a straight. It was smooth ,comfortable, close and irritation free. That just reaffirmed why I can't understand why a lot of people say they simply can't get a decent shave from a disposable multi blade razor. My guess is that if you have good technique with whatever type of shave tool you use, all else being equal, you should get a decent shave.

    So why do I bother with a straight razor at all if there is no real difference in the end result? The reasons are many and varied. I enjoy learning a new skill that is not the easiest to get a handle on, notice I did not say master as I have not got that far yet. Straights are far more appealing aesthetically than a hunk of plastic, art versus bare bones practicality. The pleasure of finding old discarded tools, repairing them if necessary and putting them back to work. I enjoy learning the history behind them. So for those reasons and likely more I use a straight but certainly not for the end result and that's what might be considered blasphemous around these parts.

    Anyway, just a ramble for your consideration. Why do you use a straight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    ... Why do you use a straight?

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    Here you go:Why do you shave with a straight razor?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    Anyway, just a ramble for your consideration. Why do you use a straight?
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    I enjoy the patience, practice and precision required of all aspects of cutthroat shaving. Stropping and face prep set the mood. Lathering provides a tactile pleasure. I also truly enjoy the concentration needed when the blade is at my throat -- it's a sort of tunnel-vision.
    The best part is afterwards, when SWMBO runs her fingers across my face and tells me that she likes!!!
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    For me, the nostalgia, doing something that's not the norm. The need of challenge, and with success, the feeling of accomplishment. Turning a mundane chore into a meaningful event whilst pampering myself. but, that's just me. I, as well, feel I will never master the art, but, I'm working on it.
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    I like doing something that others find odd/impossible.

    I guess I am an attention seeker. I just enjoy doing something that everyone used to do, and somehow so many today say it is "impossible" or impractical. I love proving people wrong too...I shaved today in under 3 minutes. Single pass and results as good as I used to get with my 6 bladed ultra-expensive cart razor....AND I enjoyed it far more!

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    Thanks Otto, I had not seen that before.

    Seems like so far everyone has similar reasons and they don't seem to have much to do with the end result. So why do so many claim they can't get a good shave from a disposable multiblade razor? That is what puzzles me more than why I use a straight. The only thing I can think of is incorrect technique and not much else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    So why do so many claim they can't get a good shave from a disposable multiblade razor? That is what puzzles me more than why I use a straight. The only thing I can think of is incorrect technique and not much else.

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    1. Disposables will give you fits if you have facial hair to trim but not remove.
    2. Disposables will cut up my face no matter how used with only one brand exception.
    3. I need to do ATG and only a straight will allow me to place the blade angle flat against my skin to get close without slicing into my face.
    4. I often have to overshave the same area with a disposable to get the last of the whiskers and it results in razor burn.

    I just can't get the end result I seek with disposables.

    An acceptably close disposable shave always leaves weepers and usually burn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaswarb View Post
    1. Disposables will give you fits if you have facial hair to trim but not remove.
    2. Disposables will cut up my face no matter how used with only one brand exception.
    3. I need to do ATG and only a straight will allow me to place the blade angle flat against my skin to get close without slicing into my face.
    4. I often have to overshave the same area with a disposable to get the last of the whiskers and it results in razor burn.

    I just can't get the end result I seek with disposables.

    An acceptably close disposable shave always leaves weepers and usually burn.
    Yea, I guess it is an individual thing. I don't have those problems with the disposable that I used today. I guess it is a case of if it does not happen to you then you have difficulty understanding that someone else has a difficulty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    Seems like so far everyone has similar reasons and they don't seem to have much to do with the end result. So why do so many claim they can't get a good shave from a disposable multiblade razor? That is what puzzles me more than why I use a straight. The only thing I can think of is incorrect technique and not much else.

    Bob
    For shame! I have some very acutely slanted hairs and though I can adjust the angle somewhat on a disposable and a DE I can't really get very close, if I do try for very close it is possible with some of the skin-stretching possible that a pulled blade on a handle can achieve, for the directions and stretchability of certain regions, over a straight. But ultimately it is the straight that wins because of the adjustability of the angle, how I can sneak underneath the slanted ones. Also the edge itself can be honed into something kinder than most DE blades and disposables. I existed for many years with generic, store-brand plastic disposables and got plenty of acceptable shaves (my Jewishness only allowed me to buy them when they were on sale and I always comforted myself by calculating the exact price of an individual razor (after taxes!) and estimated how many shaves each one lasted). I don't even remember what happened to my first cartridge razor, the Gillette Sensor Excel. I think I disposed of it. I have used a Mach3 and a Mock3 (CVS brand, they changed their Mock3 so now I have a "vintage" Mock3 and the only cartridges I can use for it are what I've got (25)). They don't give a better shave than the disposable or DE. Just faster and a feeling of less control. They have now been relegated to the unspeakable areas that cannot be shown to the Sun God, Ra (Get it? Where the sun don't shine!). It's not a bad thing, really. They have a very specific purpose, used exactly for their strengths, just like a str8.

    I get good shaves with fixed-head blade-on-a-stick razors. But I get better shaving action, results and skin benefits from a str8.

    But not to worry, Bob. I get good shaves with a swivelling head disposable cartridge razor, too. I just can't talk about it here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    Otto

    Thanks Otto, I had not seen that before.

    Seems like so far everyone has similar reasons and they don't seem to have much to do with the end result. So why do so many claim they can't get a good shave from a disposable multiblade razor? That is what puzzles me more than why I use a straight. The only thing I can think of is incorrect technique and not much else.

    Bob
    I'd suggest that you are right. I never had any trouble getting BBS every time if I prepped properly.

    Disposables make it so easy that users further simplify (over the years) and develop learned ignorance.

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