Thread: Potential Ohishi begginer setup?

The good thing is you only need to pay the shipping once cause those hones are going to last a long time. The more you buy it becomes less per item comparatively. I brought the naniwas (1,5,8,10,12) although you only need the 1,5,8,12 and a Illinois 827also. Lie neilsen tool works sell hones in oz.

Cheers Eddy,
Checked it out and its turned into henryeckert.com, doesn't have the norton 4/8 combo and they also recommend the ohishi over norton. Just waiting on a quote as they are only getting a combination 3000/10000 in a couple of weeks. Are the nagura stones vital or can i get by without while learning?

Just did a fast search on the hones Ohishi here on SRP

I found only 4 threads that even mention them, that does not mean they are bad or good it just means that help relating to how they work on straight razors is going to be pretty non-existent..

Nagura stones have two purposes

1. Clean the surface of the hone to expose new cutting girt
2. Create a slurry that can aid in honing depending on the hone and the nagura

Using an Atoma Plate or a DMT to do these jobs is also an accepted practice, but as mentioned above I have no idea how this would apply to the Ohishi hones

Would it be best off keeping it simple using just water until i see some consistent results? Then with start experimenting with slurry?

Originally Posted by Hayzee

Cheers Eddy,
Checked it out and its turned into henryeckert.com, doesn't have the norton 4/8 combo and they also recommend the ohishi over norton. Just waiting on a quote as they are only getting a combination 3000/10000 in a couple of weeks. Are the nagura stones vital or can i get by without while learning?

They are a wood working site not a razor site. I would stick to hones recommended for razors. There just not all the same. You could also try carbatec . You would be able to get a dmt there and they are great for lapping as they are the same size as the hone. Good for slurry if needed too.

Thanks, i think for now i will just stick to the wet n dry on a tile/glass for lapping until i pickup some skill honing and then see how i go. You don't know any actual shops in Perth that sell razor quality hones by chance?

If I did I would have gone there. Hard to get hones in oz at a competitive price. Only suggestion is trauling through the aussie supplies thread in down under but don't recall much.

Well im going to try another tack then, was trying to stay with the same brand of hone to keep things simpler. But if i mix and match combination stones i can get the price down to something i am quite happy with. So thanks again all for your input and time but one last potential order query!

Idea 1:
Norton 220/1000k
Ohishi 3000/8000k = $189 AUD

Idea 2:
Shapton Pro 220k
Norton 1000/8000k
Shapton Pro 5000k = $249 aud

Originally Posted by Hayzee

Well im going to try another tack then, was trying to stay with the same brand of hone to keep things simpler. But if i mix and match combination stones i can get the price down to something i am quite happy with. So thanks again all for your input and time but one last potential order query!

Idea 1:
Norton 220/1000k
Ohishi 3000/8000k = $189 AUD

Idea 2:
Shapton Pro 220k
Norton 1000/8000k
Shapton Pro 5000k = $249 aud

In your OP you mention using these on decent razors primarily.
If that is still the case, then the you could safely skip the 220 Grit stone.
A 1K stone will work very well for most bevel-setting tasks.
Coarser grits than that is used for restoration work primarily, meaning removal of a lot of steel.

I have the Shapton pro 5K and the Norton 8000, and to me that sounds like it could work pretty well.
I have never gone from the 5K Pro to the 8K Norton though, so I am just guessing based on my usage of the 2 systems separately.

If I may make a suggestion, see if you can find a Norton 1K hone(or Naniwa SS, Chosera, Knng) and a 4000/8000 Norton-combo hone.
That should be a pretty cheap yet fully functional setup for all but the most demanding of hone-jobs.

In fact, just a 4000/8000 grit Norton combo hone has been the starting point for many a honer.
It will get the job done!