Thread: Success with 2nd hone session

Finally had success today with my 2nd hone session on the norton 4/8k after last weekends play of trial & error with emphasis on error
but changed the thin glass I had with wet & dry last week to a thicker ( and would seem flatter ) piece for lapping the hone & setting the bevels right so the norton could work, managed to get 6 blades from various levels of refresh to full bevel set upwards to popping hairs above the skin on my leg
using 240 & 600 W&D on glass for bevel setting on different blades
followed by approx 40 circles then about 40 X strokes on the 4k
then a mix of 20 to 40 X & straight strokes on the 8k
Finally to my chestnut bridle Big Daddy with 50 strops on wool & 100 on the leather which I gave a wipe with a bit of the brides Nivea vitamin E moisturiser cream to increase the draw ( which I read somewhere on here ) worked a threat

From top W&B 1", 13/16", 5/8", Kraut & Dohnal Damascus 1/2", Barlay bros 6/8" & the nephews W&B 5/8" not shown
Only 7 more to go

Congratulations! You know now that you've found what works, you've got to start saving for new stones because it seems hones, like razors, one set is never enough...

Congrats on the sucess. A 1k and dmt will make it quicker and easier though. But as said these things breed like rabits.

yeh Eddy after last weekends failed attemps with the W&D with getting the edge to what seemed set & then loosing it on the hone somehow? ( blaming a too thin piece of glass as the base as a thicker 1 worked this week )
the pocket money is now getting put aside for a couple of more hones so the research continues as well as the best price sourcing for the following options to compliment my Norton 4/8k:
1: DMTDuo Coarse/fine (325/600?) to lap & bevel set if I need to go that low or just a straight DMT 325 Diasharp - leaning toward the more cost effective Duo mainly for lapping with a dual grit option for higher hones
2: Norton 220/1k, King 1k, Naniwa or Chosera 1k for metal removal & bevel setting - leaning toward the king as the work horse
3: Naniwa 12k, Shapton 16k or a 12k+ natural slate or MST or other affordable Escher type stone to finish with - leaning more toward the Naniwa 12K or the welsh slate 15k+ at the moment
as I do not intend to buy any other hones so I want to make the best cost effective choices
as my RAD has no room for competition with a HAD also LOL

For the DMT check carbatec. The Naniwa 12k is higher grit than most slates, the mst or the cheaper thuris(you will only get a very small decent one for the same cost as the 12k maybe 5x1 vs 8x3 for the 12k). I have the plain old 325 and can use for bevel straight to 1k Naniwa ok. Glen only ever seems to use the 325 so should be able to use on any hone. Hope this helps

Originally Posted by Substance

1: DMTDuo Coarse/fine (325/600?) to lap & bevel set if I need to go that low or just a straight DMT 325 Diasharp - leaning toward the more cost effective Duo mainly for lapping with a dual grit option for higher hones
2: Norton 220/1k, King 1k, Naniwa or Chosera 1k for metal removal & bevel setting - leaning toward the king as the work horse

I've been told that if you're looking for cost effective and doing the job just fine, that the King 1k will take care of both #1 and #2 on your list.

Keep the Norton 4/8k then buy the very cost effective Naniwa 12k SS. I only have the latter, but looove it. As advised, I've been using a Nagura stone to create a slurry on the 12k to increase the flexibility of the stone.

But, that would just be me. I am starting with a 12K and looking down the pyramid towards the 4/8k level or Naniwa 3/8k SS.

I'd love to hear which way you go, when you do it.

thanks lads,
based on my findings & a lot of reading I have bitten the bullet and gone the Naniwa Superstone for the 1k as it has been given great all round reviews from what I have found $55US deliverd to Qld I found others cheaper but they were Naniwa HQ not Superstones & could find any clear info on them so stuck with the known Super stone,
definately leaning more towards the Naniwa SS 12k at this stage based on many reports & especially Lyn & Glens comments on other threads, just got find the right price now & get the money box full again

Originally Posted by Substance

1: DMTDuo Coarse/fine (325/600?) to lap & bevel set if I need to go that low or just a straight DMT 325 Diasharp - leaning toward the more cost effective Duo mainly for lapping with a dual grit option for higher hones
2: Norton 220/1k, King 1k, Naniwa or Chosera 1k for metal removal & bevel setting - leaning toward the king as the work horse
3: Naniwa 12k, Shapton 16k or a 12k+ natural slate or MST or other affordable Escher type stone to finish with - leaning more toward the Naniwa 12K or the welsh slate 15k+ at the moment
as I do not intend to buy any other hones so I want to make the best cost effective choices
as my RAD has no room for competition with a HAD also LOL

1: 325 DMT is all you need for lapping a 600 will be destroyed very quickly. The DMT600 may be useful on edge restoration but a good 1k is all you need if you use the 325 for heavy lifting on razors.
2: Kings are cheap & cheerful & double perfectly on J/knives but I bet anyone using a Chosera 1k would say it's the best of the bunch you list.
3 : Don't use any of the finishers you mention but any of those synthetics are pretty well guaranteed unlike a slate that is at best an estimate of grit. An Escher is a different story but not really in the cost effective bracket.

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