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    Default Yet another J-nat to identify

    Hello guys!

    Could anybody help me to identify this stone.

    All I know about it is that it is from Japan.
    It is very hard and have rather good abrasion.


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    Hi-res images are here: https://www.wuala.com/togiya/photo/jnat
    and here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/1091518...7637827771915/
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    This is a tomae strata stone, what I usually call a iro (color) tomae. These iro tomae are often very nice stones to use, they slurry up with a diamond plate to create a butter smooth paste that you have to add a touch of water to often. Stones of this color came from the shallower tomae strata and get their colors from several sources: oxidation, and water soluable alternate minerals. Also these semi soft stones have not been so affected by any heat or pressure like the deep strats stones have. It should be a splendid stone to use, looks like a hand held hone size and shape.

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    Some Tuesday morning "truth." Quite refreshing, thank you Alx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alx View Post
    This is a tomae strata stone, what I usually call a iro (color) tomae. These iro tomae are often very nice stones to use, they slurry up with a diamond plate to create a butter smooth paste that you have to add a touch of water to often. Stones of this color came from the shallower tomae strata and get their colors from several sources: oxidation, and water soluable alternate minerals. Also these semi soft stones have not been so affected by any heat or pressure like the deep strats stones have. It should be a splendid stone to use, looks like a hand held hone size and shape.

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    Thank you very much!

    As far as I know the japanese for this iro tomae is 色物 or 戸前 色物

    And now I have found the stone looking like my.
    Here it is 菖蒲谷・色物 :
    Natural whetstone Shoubudani Tomae


    And here it is one more: http://www4.ocn.ne.jp/~kanetake/syoubu.html



    The only difference is the hardness. My is substantially harder.

    As for slurry my iromono performs very well with slurry removing steel much faster.
    Last edited by Nikolay; 11-19-2013 at 09:37 PM.

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    Beautiful stone!

    Sharpen something on it and show us what it can do.
    Hur Svenska stålet biter kom låt oss pröfva på.

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    Yes, iro means color, mono means things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Beautiful stone!

    Sharpen something on it and show us what it can do.
    I have sharpened one japanese knife ( of Masahiro brend ).
    Gonna make a video...

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