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Thread: Barber hone as a finisher?
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12-15-2013, 03:15 PM #1
Barber hone as a finisher?
I've been using an old Everkeen barber hone on restores after a Norton 8k. I'm not even going to ask anybody about grit comparisons as I've caught enough threads here to understand no one really knows what barber hones are. It seems like a smoother shave than just coming off the 8k and stropping. Just wanted to know if anyone here does this or am I just fooling myself into an extra step. Although I don't have any complaints with the shave from an 8k and a good stropping. I'm somewhat knew to honing and I'm not looking for crazy sharp just a good easy shave. As most of the mentors here have said it's all in the shave. Just wanted to know if I'm the only one doing this.
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12-15-2013, 04:13 PM #2
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Thanked: 522A properly honed razor coming off the 8k can give a very nice shave and if you can notice any improvement at all by a few strokes on a barber hone following the 8k, that is perfectly acceptable. The consensus seems to be that a Norton barber hone is one of the very best touch-up tools. I get good results from my Swaty and Frictionite 00 hones. Keep experimenting.......
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12-15-2013, 04:15 PM #3
That's what they were made for. A quick few strokes, then a stropping, and off you go. Doing so, you are following a century/ies old tradition. That can't be all bad
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12-15-2013, 04:21 PM #4
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Thanked: 4828I have also finished on barber hones. Most of them cut very quickly, and require very few strokes to refine an edge. The down side is until you get to know your hone over honing may be easy. Although that will vary with the different hones. I have a couple of finishing stones now, and I still use my barber hones occasionally. You can get a very nice edge and most are fairly inexpensive. Modine has been doing some extensive research and has quite the data base at the razor and stone.
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12-15-2013, 04:44 PM #5
thanks for the feedback. That's why I love this site! Somebody on here at some point has done what you are trying to do and is willing to help you out. I've been straight shaving for twenty some years and have always kept my razors comfortably shaving but this site and it's community and mentors has shown me something new every time I browse it. It's a really good community we're in. Different folks from different places but all still doing things the old way just for the enjoyment of tradition.
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12-15-2013, 05:13 PM #6
My experiments w/ a Swaty mirror your own - not really any sharper, but noticeably smoother. FWIW, I pay attention when Mrsell talks about them. I've yet to taste an edge from a Fritionite 00, but if the honorable Randydance has any luck, we may see them again. They seem to enjoy a nice reputation.
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12-15-2013, 05:14 PM #7
I am not trying to be argumentative, but see my post about testing 2 of my Barber's hones. I also use mine to finish, and to refresh since my rotation is so big that I don't get back to the same razor for weeks at a time. I had heard that Barber's hones are the reason there are so many Frowning and Smiling Vintage blades out there. So I decided to test the theory.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...it-answer.html
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12-15-2013, 05:23 PM #8
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Thanked: 13249I keep one razor, and have for several years that I use my Swaty on, nothing else,,, I found a 8" Long Swaty a few years back and switched the razor to that one, really like that hone..
There was a time that I sold Barber's Hones quite regularly, I tested every hone before it left the house, IMHO I think the grit numbers that people assign to these are a bit much
These hones are in general designed to quickly and easily touch up the edge on a razor, they have a high density of grit so they cut efficiently, ascribing much more to these simple tools I feel is doing them a disservice...
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12-15-2013, 05:33 PM #9
I agree with the statements above. The thing I suggest remembering is that some razors honed with tape will not respond to a barber hone unless they are re-taped.
That can remove the barber hone from consideration for a quick touch up. I have heard of hone clips which quickly reset the spine to the same angle when used for original honing or touch up.
A barber, commonly did not have a razor that was as hone worn as many we use tape upon. When it got so the bevel angle would no longer support a good edge he threw it in the drawer. He also knew each of his razors and always used the same hone and method...it worked for him!
Just some thoughts!
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12-15-2013, 05:38 PM #10
I keep a roll of tape next to my barber's hone.