Thread: chosera 1k

firstly i apologise if this has been covered before, i use my phone for accessing the forum, and i cant get the search function working.
i have just received a chosera 1k stone, which came with a small brown stone in the box.
My question is 4 fold:
1, is it for making slurry?
2, do I just rub it on the top until I create slurry?
3, what sort of consistency am I aiming for, ie dirty water or more like wet mud?
4, can i, and is there any need to use it on my higher grit hones (3,8,10,12k naniwas)?
I understand that slurry cuts faster and as it is diluted this effect is reduced, and I also realise that I need to get as good an edge as possible on each stone before moving up, but as the jumps are relatively small I don't imagine (though this is only what I think, not what I know so please set me straight) that it would be necessary.
Thank you for your time.

Slurry adds more course to the stone making it faster. I think you have figured it out. Your stones are close enough you don't need to go there. Just try it once and see. You can make a cloudy light slurry or a heavy thick one. In my opinion it is more of something you do when using natural stones or like you say , if the stone grits are a big jump apart.

And yes you just rub it all over until you get the slurry you want. Try to keep it even all over the stone.

Thanks 10pups, I was sort of reasonably clear but obviously all the packaging is in Japanese, to save me from tears I have a gold dollar to play with, and before you say it I know, it will also cause me tears .
I am fairly confident with refreshing on the 10 and 12, but this is my first foray into potential razor destruction. Some say I will be doing the world a favour

The red stone is not a slury stone.
It is a dressing stone.

With a ceramic stone it can 'glaze'and the stone will refresh the surface of the hone.
Normally this is done when the steel doesn't wash off the face of the hone.
I would never use it to make a slury.
It is the same stone for all off the grit levels.

Originally Posted by ZethLent

The red stone is not a slury stone.
It is a dressing stone.

With a ceramic stone it can 'glaze'and the stone will refresh the surface of the hone.
Normally this is done when the steel doesn't wash off the face of the hone.
I would never use it to make a slury.
It is the same stone for all off the grit levels.

Thank you, the naniwas didn't come with them, if I use this one on all my naniwas as well as the chosera will I need to worry about contamination between stones, or should I try and use a different side for each grit, well 5 stones and 4 useable sides wouldn't work obviously, but the 10k may go so problem solved.
Anyway the question remains, do I need to worry about cross contamination or will giving the dressing stone a wash bypass the issue?

I use this stone to clean all my Naniwa's I've found no problems with this provided you do it under running water as this washes off all the rubbish so which side to use to my mind is not that important as long as you keep the clean water flowing.
I've also used the green nylon pan scrubbers to good effect as well so I don't think you need to be too fussy. I just run my palm over each stone and you can feel if there is any contamination left so just continue until it feels smooth.
If the rubbing stone/pan scrubber don't clear the stone then you'll have to use a lapping stone/plate. I also find that as the Naniwa starts to become clean the rubbing stone sticks to it more as a slight vacuum is created between the two increasingly smooth stones.
I use this stone as I'm honing to keep the stone surface smooth against the blade. I didn't used to do this when I first started honing but after reading on here that a really clean stone improves the finish of the blade I tried it and now always follow this format which seems to produce a much smoother blade to shave with.
Hope this helps

Some guys are "splash and go" with the Chosera stones, and I hear that works for them, but the instructions, I'm told, recommend a fifteen minute soak. Not longer. That is what I do with them. I never use the rubbing stone that comes with them. A nylon bristle brush under running water or the lapping plate cleans them up for me. YMMV.

i use in this way my choesera:

15min water soak, support the stone on a wooden plan and use nagura for polish surface.
After this 3 step i use my razor on it and use Nagura to clean the surface after 30 passes

It's a great bevel setter. 5,8,12k naniwas