Thread: Enhanced Jnat.

Ive used paste after jnats many times. Is it wrong? NO Imo, but you can certainly improve your honing to get there without it. It all depends what your looking for. If all we wanted was a shave, we could have stopped at the 8k norton.

I use pastes or sprays often, just before I go back to finish on the stone.

Thats interesting... I never tried that. Thanks for the tip! Is that kind of what Iwasaki was saying about removing a false or wire edge? I typically do very short strokes to finish and run very short parallel to the edge strokes.

Originally Posted by bill3152

Thats interesting... I never tried that. Thanks for the tip! Is that kind of what Iwasaki was saying about removing a false or wire edge? I typically do very short strokes to finish and run very short parallel to the edge strokes.

Yes, that's where I got the idea.

I took an oohira kiita like a level 3 stone that I typically use for prefinishing and decided to try it. This stone has never delivered as a finisher. it gives a shaveable edge, but is short of the keen edges I get off my harder finer finishers. Well it shaved pretty well today. I decided to hone another blade, bevel set, ohhira kiita botan, and 2 tomo slurries on an umegehata gousa. After I broke the slurry the second time, I could feel the stiction as I usually do, so I stopped and did 15 laps on crox then returned to finish on the gousa. The feel on the stone had no stiction at all, very smooth, so I did about 7 laps until feedback started kicking in again. Whatever the crox did, it did something as the feedback was gone after the crox, and took some laps to get it back. Maybe the stiction is indicative of a wire or false edge, I dont know. But will test shave that one tomorrow. Another adventure! Thanks for the tip again. I did a scrub of the blade on felt before returning to the stoneso as to not contaminate the stone so eliminating that as a cause of feedback change.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I use pastes or sprays often, just before I go back to finish on the stone.

This was unclear to me. By going back to the stone, did you mean you were coming from pastes or sprays on a strop?

Originally Posted by Utopian

This was unclear to me. By going back to the stone, did you mean you were coming from pastes or sprays on a strop?

Mostly at end game in honing, because any earlier i just progress to next stone, I will strop on diamond sprayed felt then go back to the finisher for some minimal strokes or whatever I deem necessarry. It is mostly a correction for a slight wire or what Iwasaki calls a "false edge". Not always needed & currently experimenting with the Gokumyo 20k to see if it can replace the felt strop..

I was experimenting today with some back strokes, it appears that doing them changes the edge enough to eliminate the stiction or feedback I was getting before. And some laps are necessary to get it back. Im not sure where this will lead me if anywhere, but I will keep going and see.

Another Japanese traditional way would be to swipe up some broken down slurry with the palm of your hand, let it dry and strop on it.

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