Thread: Coarse natural stone?

Well gents, after having given the binsui a far working out, I've decided it's a bit slow. I have a DMT green, a 5k shapton. Could I turtle off and get a Chosera 1k? Yes...yes I could.

But I'm still on my 'nature boy' streak. So......

What are some better choices for coarse NATURAL stones--preferably waterstones. By the way, if I dig around in the attic, I'm sure I can find my old Arkansas soft stone. Beyond that arky stone, what is else is there coarse natural stones?

that's a question I was asking myself a few days ago, when I asked here, the general consensus turned out to be that there is simply no bevelsetting natural stone that outpreforms a man made stone. That being said, what would be a good natural in this range?

I was considering the following: http://ardennes-coticule.be/en/produ...-pyrénées.html

BUT!, I don't have it yet so I can't realy say anything about it!

instead I bought my second coticule a Les Latneuses combi stone

Dalmore Yellow also Named "Mikado" Stone i think, Probably a Amakusa.....the Dalmore ist not that Easy to find....

I do either not know how these perform, as far as i read the Japanese Amakusa is quite usable...

Being you have a binsui you probably got it from the same source I got my Amakusa Red. IMHO, the Amakusa Red may work on knives (I have not tried a knife yet) but from my own experience, at least with the stone I have, they are not suitable for str8 razors period.

I bought mine as an experiment to see if I could go from bevel setting to finish using naturals only. The Amakusa only (very, very slowly) set the bevel half way, I had to finish setting, or refine the bevel with a Coticule. I realized going into the experiment the Amakusa would be slow cutting but after several hours the best I could get was setting the bevel half way........experiment failed.

Originally Posted by doorsch

as far as i read the Japanese Amakusa is quite usable...

Randy's got one that he considers to be quite useable...

as a base for holding a real hone.

I have an Ikarashi that with botan slurry or dmt slurry cuts very fast for a natural IMO. I would say its in tune with my chosera 2k.

In Sweden sandstone was used for razors in "the days".

Have tried it and it works fine, start off with sandstone then either Coticule, slate or Thuringen.

Originally Posted by bill3152

I have an Ikarashi that with botan slurry or dmt slurry cuts very fast for a natural IMO. I would say its in tune with my chosera 2k.

+1 on bill's comment. I have an ikarashi as well and would rate it as faster than a King 1K (what isn't?) but not even close to as fast as a Chosera 1K (what is?). As with all naturals, it's a bit of a crap shoot to find a good one as some have coarse inclusions. Good luck!


rs,
Tack

Tack: have you tried using naturals after the Chosera? If so, does that work well? Or do you find you spend a lot of time erasing what the chosera did?

Not answering for anybody but a mid range jnat with dmt slurry or botan slurry can wipe anything out you get from a chosera 1 k IMO. Yae botan is coarser than regular botan, that may be something to consider.