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    The other day Maksim explained to me about polishing my jnats . I also read what he says concerning thick slurry.
    Add to that what gssixgun explained in this thread and new jnat doors have opened for me
    I always used watery slurry on a matte stone, now ill go the other way and use thick slurry on a glass surface, which so far looks the better option. At least with my Shobu.
    I think my Shobu may now be redundant.
    Today I received my first Nakayama and it is a thing of beauty .
    The price was slightly embarrassing but that's why God invented credit cards, I think :/
    I'm going tomorrow to buy some walnut and then have a base made for it .
    I'll show you guys the finished product , when its done.

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    I would make some statement about how you don't have to buy japanese stones that are expensive....

    ... but I haven't exactly been able to stick to that.

    My favorite hone was only $165, though, and I had an ozuku piece from CKTG years ago that would've been as good as anything as a hard hone to be used with a nagura progression, and it was $70. That doesn't by any means suggest that the next rock from there will be any good, though, as I've got ozukus (coarser and less dense) that are tool level of fineness and would never finish a razor well.

    I've got other rocks that cost a lot more and were designed specifically for tools, and they're great for that. I'm sure the $500+ rocks designed for razors are great, too, but a lot of their value comes from attributes that don't have anything to do with performance over a carefully selected smaller rock thats under 2 bills.

    IME, as a longer-term buyer of japanese naturals than has been the case on shave forums, a lot of rocks that weren't that well thought of (tomae looking plain green rocks that were common and a few hundred bucks) are all of the sudden much much more expensive. Even fujibato, who used to have very good examples of very hard nakayama hones with mild cosmetic issues for about $100 or so has pretty much vaporized those offerings. There's either small teaser koppa or there is very expensive with attributes that don't mean anything for actual sharpening, but that mean a lot for someone trying to collect rare rocks.

    Takeshi Kuroda also sells a lot of nice very hard shoubu stones, and charges on the low side, but because the demand is up (pushing up those common green stones) so much now, his stones don't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    I would make some statement about how you don't have to buy japanese stones that are expensive....

    ... but I haven't exactly been able to stick to that.

    My favorite hone was only $165, though, and I had an ozuku piece from CKTG years ago that would've been as good as anything as a hard hone to be used with a nagura progression, and it was $70. That doesn't by any means suggest that the next rock from there will be any good, though, as I've got ozukus (coarser and less dense) that are tool level of fineness and would never finish a razor well.

    I've got other rocks that cost a lot more and were designed specifically for tools, and they're great for that. I'm sure the $500+ rocks designed for razors are great, too, but a lot of their value comes from attributes that don't have anything to do with performance over a carefully selected smaller rock thats under 2 bills.

    IME, as a longer-term buyer of japanese naturals than has been the case on shave forums, a lot of rocks that weren't that well thought of (tomae looking plain green rocks that were common and a few hundred bucks) are all of the sudden much much more expensive. Even fujibato, who used to have very good examples of very hard nakayama hones with mild cosmetic issues for about $100 or so has pretty much vaporized those offerings. There's either small teaser koppa or there is very expensive with attributes that don't mean anything for actual sharpening, but that mean a lot for someone trying to collect rare rocks.

    Takeshi Kuroda also sells a lot of nice very hard shoubu stones, and charges on the low side, but because the demand is up (pushing up those common green stones) so much now, his stones don't last long.
    I totally understand what your saying.
    I thought long and hard before buying my "Nakayama maruka Maruichi Kamisori Karasu Lv 5+"
    I am not well off but the amount of appreciation I have gained for my Shobudani meant I knew nothing would stop me from getting some thing really special.
    I'm sure this stone will be my most prized possession . It already is.

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    I think coloring patterns and stamps have a lot less value than they used to unless they're something really rare (google imaging karasu will show what I mean - some of the more spectacular patterns cost huge amounts), but..

    it matters more what the stone does with the razor and if you love it and what it does, it could be...

    ...danger, don't ever say this out loud...

    ..the last stone you ever need to buy, and the same for the next several people who use it/buy it after it outlasts you.

    But, I like to ask dealers for the ugliest really good stone they have for ____ (fill in the blank for the applicable use at the time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    I think coloring patterns and stamps have a lot less value than they used to unless they're something really rare (google imaging karasu will show what I mean - some of the more spectacular patterns cost huge amounts), but..

    it matters more what the stone does with the razor and if you love it and what it does, it could be...

    ...danger, don't ever say this out loud...

    ..the last stone you ever need to buy, and the same for the next several people who use it/buy it after it outlasts you.

    But, I like to ask dealers for the ugliest really good stone they have for ____ (fill in the blank for the applicable use at the time).
    I asked the dealer , whom I trust as do most of his customers, "for the best finishing Nakayama with no budget" and this he assured me was the best finisher.
    I don't look to save money only spend it

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