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    There are many ways to do this. The method your using is one of them. Nagura sets can take you from bevel setter on up to finisher on one stone. You can also get prepolishing stones to use as a progression of jnats. You can also use diamond plate slurry as well. And many other ways. I think using the stone as you are for the moment is a good idea. Get the slurry down, before you throw anything into the mix. If your stone is super fine as was said, your progression up to 16k has that covered IMO. Keep it simple for now, there will be lots more after you get this finisher figured out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill3152 View Post
    There are many ways to do this. The method your using is one of them. Nagura sets can take you from bevel setter on up to finisher on one stone. You can also get prepolishing stones to use as a progression of jnats. You can also use diamond plate slurry as well. And many other ways. I think using the stone as you are for the moment is a good idea. Get the slurry down, before you throw anything into the mix. If your stone is super fine as was said, your progression up to 16k has that covered IMO. Keep it simple for now, there will be lots more after you get this finisher figured out.
    Excellently put, tactful as well
    I will have an inner ego battle to try and stop myself from buying a pre polisher now

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    Whats the deal with pre polishing?
    I'd never heard of it until today.
    Is it a stone that preps the blade for final polishing.
    was told that my stone is super fine and would require a lot of pre polishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsell63 View Post
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    Contact Maxim Enevoldsen for info on pre-polishers.
    I already spoke to him, he said that my Shobu would work fine as a pre polisher.
    He could have tried to sell me some thing but gave me good advise instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    I already spoke to him, he said that my Shobu would work fine as a pre polisher.
    He could have tried to sell me some thing but gave me good advise instead.
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    Then you already have what you need. Hone away and good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    I already spoke to him, he said that my Shobu would work fine as a pre polisher.
    He could have tried to sell me some thing but gave me good advise instead.
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    Perhaps it is time to employ the Tim Zowada finish method.

    Razor Maintenance http://www.tzknives.com/razorcare.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    here the bevel imperfection, that one has nothing to do with the spine or the bevel it is a thin spot in the grind where the wheel/belt dug slightly deeper

    Ohhhhhhhh I see it now its looking down the blade, my eyes saw it as the blade bent back on itself dohhhhh

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    JOB, also a litle advice on a different part. I recently found my self wondering why my edges were getting less confortable while I hadn't changed anything in my method (I bevel set, use a coti, dilute slurry, plain water and then strop) and gotten 10+ blades ~shave ready, then I took one up honed a long time ago and it was way smoother then anything I could do at the moment.

    I finally realized that I probably hadn't cleaned my blades after honing before stropping and that there were probably a lot of garnet running around on my strop.

    after I cleaned my strop and redressed it the universe was good again
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    I have some more news.
    I know I posted a pic of a microchip that occurred that day, but what I was referring to as microchipping and a weak edge I now know it as a "Burr" or "Foil Edge" .
    As I hone I not only use the microscope, I use my eyes.
    The microscope I use to make sure I get to the edge with my scratches and to check there is no microchipping .
    My eyes I use to make sure there is no foil edge catching the light.
    My edges are fine until ive finished and hit the linen strop.
    I do 50 laps on the linen and a wire edge appears just partially hear n there .
    So I'm trying to figure out if its occurring because of over honing during the bevel setting or over polishing .
    Im quietly confident its not from too much pressure because I used to apply too much pressure but learnt to control myself
    I now think the problem occurs form the shape or low profile of Hart Steel blades as "Gissixgun" mentioned .
    Also reading this thread My Theory on Overhoning Straight Razors – Part 1 | Jende Industries Blog
    So 3 layers of tape and it should all be good , otherwise I'm thinking to use less 4k Shapton than I have been after the 1k... I mean 1k sets the bevel so the 4k I could just do laps and no circles.. I think the 3 layers of tape should work though ...
    Either way ive learnt a hell of a lot from this thread.. thanks all..
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    IMO the photo showed a chip from a stone particle that was too large. Probably from aggressive tomo slurry raising. If you have 3 layers of tape on and the particle was there, you would have the same chip. Wire edge is something else completely from what the photo was showing. IMO too many strokes on the 4k, will not result in a wire edge after progressing to the 8k, then 16 then nakayama. Any one of those stones is capable of removing the foil or wire by itself.

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