Found this 6"x1 1/2" coticule on Etsy a few days ago for like 70 bucks...need to get it out of the box its mounted on to use the bbw back, kinda hate removing it but I wanna see what's back there LOL.
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Found this 6"x1 1/2" coticule on Etsy a few days ago for like 70 bucks...need to get it out of the box its mounted on to use the bbw back, kinda hate removing it but I wanna see what's back there LOL.
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Be carefull removing that coticule from the block, its not as hard as a PHIG & coticules fracture very easily. If you can clean it on the base & see the sides & the sides are consistant down to the base, same stone & not mounted to another piece, ,,, then I would leave it as is.
Nice. I like etsy for that reason. I mean 70 is a fair price if not on the cheap side. I have a nice combo coticle but I never use the bbw side. It's just to slow in my opinion when compared to just raising a slurry on the coti and honing and diluting every so often. My coti is definitely the work horse of my progression. Etsy has some good stuff and sometimes the people selling it don't know what they have and offer it for cheap.
I was thinking of belt sanding the sides to the stone so I can get a better view of the underside then saw most of the bottom wood off then belt sand it off...seemed safestQuote:
Originally Posted by Hirlau
I just took a better look at photo # 2,,,, sorry I did not before my first post. If that was my coticule, I would definitely leave it attached to the base,,,,just clean it & use it.
Good advice above,Leave it be,The BBW, sort of useless anyhow.
It's your stone,,, but that second layer is meant to stabilize the yellow coticule,,, your playing with fire putting it on a belt sander, regardless of how skilled you are,,,,that stone could be 100 years old.
True enough, I'll take your advice and leave it as is, never played with a bbw so only reason I wanted it out.
There's a reason they used it to back the coticule. I mean you could use it to fill in the roll of a 4th but your coti can do that too and much faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by DennisBarberShop
It's variable. Some BBW are fast and better than some coticule (old BBW, new coticules), even if it's not the majority.
BBW can be good for finishing knives, if you want to keep the coticule side for your razors. But Hirlau is right, it's easy to crack those stones, be careful. :)
Hold the box and stone in your hand and take a small hammer tap one end of the box down with the hammer. Chances are it is not glued to the box except by the slurry.
In effect you are tapping the box away from the stone. Once it starts to move, rotate the stone and tap the other end. Keep switching ends until it is free.
I have done many stones this way. It does not take much force. I use a 2 or 4oz peen hammer.
Nice find.
You can probebly get it out,but BBW is not rated as being great Hone material.
Some BBW sharpen great but not all.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
As I understand it the BBW was meant to be a base to bolster the coti.yes people have honed on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suile
I will say the box seems very well aged, no oil gunk, and doesnt stink like a goat, stone lapped easily, not sure how old it is but looks like it has been in that box a long time...if I do get the stone out I may use it for scales....its a very nice looking wood, not sure what it is.
The hone came from Selfkant, Germany also
Wood is red oak.
The old barbers I bought coticules from in the 1980s said that the bbw was not usable as a hone. At that time that was the general consensus. Note that 'Old Rock' and 'Deep Rock' labeled hones come with the label glued to the bbw side. From what I understand there are different grades of bbw. Some are used for paving stones, fences and the like. In recent years it was discovered that the bbw , of the finer grade, is usable as a hone. I've messed with it a bit but I prefer the yellow coticule for honing and pretty much pass on the bbw. YMMV.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
If that stone is a natural, where the yellow and the bbw were mined in one piece no worries. If it is a glued coticule, with the bbw glued on for support, you have to watch out you don't break the bond loose. Wouldn't be the end of the world if you did, you could always glue it back. IIRC they used a mix of beeswax and whatever to glue them. Heat and/or shock could separate the two if it is a glued joint. The yellow really is fragile or they wouldn't go to the trouble of gluing them. You could try that tapping method Euclid mentioned but go easy. If it is a natural you could put it in the oven and heat it up and then tap it. I wouldn't do that with a glued stone. You'll see the joint if it is glued, if it is a natural it kind of flows together.
A couple of lite taps and you will know if it is coming out or not.
There isnt a glue line and it is definitely a natural stone, also as stated before, I wouldnt mind seeing if there is a label back there. Ive got an old barber that comes in the shop and hangs out that has a very nice belgian labeled hone I keep trying to get him to sell it to me....he had a labeled escher he bought in germany that when he shows me the length of it with his hands it had to be a 12 inch+ stone. He sold it several years ago though sadly but said he got 700 bucks for it....musta been a beastly escher
A couple of lite taps and you will know that grown men do cry,,,,,,:rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Euclid440
I understand your curiosity to remove the stone from the base, but, like the others, recommend against it. At best, you'll have a stone inferior to the coti, at worst you'll render them both useless.
The reason the coti's on the top, is cause it's better than what's on the bottom.
Having said all that, of the three BBWs I have, I really like two of them. Don't know why, but I do.
Ahhh,,,, but the temptation will be too much for Dennis & we will soon see if the Classified section is flooded with coticule slurry stones,,,,,,,, ;)
lol. Well let me know if it is, I could use a vintage combo slurry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirlau
No guts… No glory
Glory doesn't heal a brocken pair of guts ";"
But personally I can't keep my stones glued inside those boxes. :)
Actually, neither can I, lol. I can't even keep them glued onto a base, i.e., nanis. But in this case I would, cause those vintage guys did things for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaeris
That foible of yours worked out well for me though frankie. I prefer to rest my hone on a table so a base gives me extra height, perhaps if and when i get more proficient i might prefer to hold my hone in my hand. Baseless hones would be more compact to store, but in my opinion may be more prone to damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenstein
Yes it did. Not that you ever use it, lol . :)Quote:
Originally Posted by edhewitt
It does get some use, jut probably not enough, being the owner of a 2 razor collection does somewhat limit my honing oportunities. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenstein
lol. I liked that quote the other day, 'you have to respect a man with only one gun'. i'll send you a few to fatten up that collection.Quote:
Originally Posted by edhewitt
In other news my girlfriend just ended it. I'm sad, ed. even razors won't fix the pain. alcohol is helping, though.
Ewww...it stinks....like 5 light taps on each side and it came out easily.....
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If cry = gag then yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirlau
Give me your tired, your poor
Your huddled stones yearning to breathe free
RELEASE THE STONE,
RELEASE THE STONE,
RELEASE THE STONE…
Well done! what are you going to do now, lol?
Your stinky box looks fairly disgusting.
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looks like slate on my screen. is it?
Nah, its very purple...let me go outside and take a picQuote:
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