Wonky Bevel

Hi, I've been honing for over a year and a couple of my razors , ones which I learnt to hone with, don't sit flat on the hone.
Either the toe or the heel is raised off the hone on one side.
Which means that on the other side of the blade, the toe and heel get more pressure than the middle.
Has this occurred because I was using uneven pressure? Or maybe my hones weren't flat.
Can I fix the blades now .
I can still get nice edges on them but the whole process would be easier if it sat flat on the hone.
I've added some pics .
You can see the fat bevel part in the middle..
Cheers :)

It looks like this

Check out the PDF, and the 'rolling x stroke' tutorial. If a razor has a smile it won't sit flat on the hone from heel to point. Go with the profile and it will work out fine. IME.

http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi...t_-_Honing.pdf


Rolling X stroke - Straight Razor Place Library

If you become proficient at the rolling X stroke and you get the bevel you want could you post pics of the after?

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Originally Posted by WW243

If you become proficient at the rolling X stroke and you get the bevel you want could you post pics of the after?

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yeh sure..
This would mean setting the bevel with no circles..jeez :/
I'm more interested in how I messed the blade up in the first place

Could the problem have occurred because the spine isn't straight..
You can see it dips in the middle

Did the blade have a slight smile before honing it? I mean did it follow the profile of the spines slight curve?

Bob

You need a more experienced eye than I have but looking at that razor is making me dizzy....this isn't one of those trick optical illusion things is it?

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Originally Posted by JOB15

Could the problem have occurred because the spine isn't straight..
You can see it dips in the middle

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It was from the first picture I posted (with the taped spine) that I noticed the dipped spine.
I never realised that before.
However I'd still lay money on the wonkey bevel and spurred heel being caused by my uneven pressure .
Also, when I first started honing I was using way to much pressure.
Now im too scared to hone my new blue steel base camp x blade.
Look im showing it off :)
Although it has a straight spine.

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Originally Posted by BobH

Did the blade have a slight smile before honing it? I mean did it follow the profile of the spines slight curve?

Bob

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good question...im not sure

Who makes these blades ?

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Originally Posted by JOB15

good question...im not sure

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Looking at the photo in post 11, I would say no, if the photo is from before you started to hone. Your blade is made by Hart, it seems, and none of the Hart razors appear to be made with a smile to the blade. Ignore my question then as it is not relevent to your wonky bevel. Sorry for the red herring.

Bob

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Originally Posted by 10Pups

Who makes these blades ?

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Hart Steel Razors for Baxters of California.
They give the best edges in my limited experience .

post 11 is a new un honed blade with a straight spine, the Not a replica blades have a curved spine.

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Originally Posted by JOB15

post 11 is a new un honed blade with a straight spine, the Not a replica blades have a curved spine.

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I am going to not say any more and add to the confusion. I think we are talking about two different things, sorry.

Bob

Maybe your dropping the angle as you come off the hone. It looks like your honing a frown into 1 side more that the other from what I can see. A video of you honing would show a lot. Do it for yourself and get a different angle to look at. Maybe back at you and low. Although most people act different on stage :<0)

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Originally Posted by JOB15

post 11 is a new un honed blade with a straight spine, the Not a replica blades have a curved spine.

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So you got these two razors new? The current "Not a Replica" on the Baxter site has a straight spine so yours may be older? Either way it seems to have uneven spine wear near the toe but that may be a lighting/angle issue (post #7), and as previously mentioned there looks to be a heel hook. Both would indicate a fair amount of honing has been done on this razor.

From my very limited experience I would suggest you remove the tape, blacken the edge and the spine with magic marker and take a few strokes on a 1K or 4K to see where the razor is contacting the stone. You can then adjust your stroke to address any uneven spine wear and edge contact. Another option would be to keep the very nice blades away from your hones pick up a couple of cheap razors to develop your honing skill.

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Originally Posted by john3126

So you got these two razors new? The current "Not a Replica" on the Baxter site has a straight spine so yours may be older? Either way it seems to have uneven spine wear near the toe but that may be a lighting/angle issue (post #7), and as previously mentioned there looks to be a heel hook. Both would indicate a fair amount of honing has been done on this razor.

From my very limited experience I would suggest you remove the tape, blacken the edge and the spine with magic marker and take a few strokes on a 1K or 4K to see where the razor is contacting the stone. You can then adjust your stroke to address any uneven spine wear and edge contact. Another option would be to keep the very nice blades away from your hones pick up a couple of cheap razors to develop your honing skill.

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The blade is about 2 years old I think and I learnt to hone with it, un even pressure, un flattened stones, too much pressure , its been honed many many times.
I think the picture on the Baxters site is a bit misleading , I think there is a dip to the spine but its hard to tell.

Curved spine or not I would still suggest the marker and also ensure that your stones are flat. Once you get the bevel straight the heel is going to need some attention.

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Originally Posted by john3126

Curved spine or not I would still suggest the marker and also ensure that your stones are flat. Once you get the bevel straight the heel is going to need some attention.

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thx ,ill mess about with it now