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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrasoundguy2003 View Post
    Just curious how many cotis have you seen? Put your hands on? personally own??
    Warning dont get the coti guys going, they have many, any they have weighed in.
    Put razor to stone and then we can talk. Or send it to me , I will test it for you and send it back with Superduper written across the whole thing.
    Speaking as a proud coti guy you got a good one. But it has its own personallity. You might want to give her a name, and spend some time getting to know her.
    In the Library there are extensive articles on the time proven ways to get repeatable results. I still havent said anything yet, each one has to be unlocked.
    From the pictures you havent even lapped it yet. Just an observation.
    BUT you did good
    This is the first coticule I've seen and touched in person. I've only seen them on the interwebs.

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    Since this is a natural combination with a gradual transition between the yellow and blue layer it could be most probably a La Grise layer. But also some more exotic layer is possible. The transition reminds me somehow on a La Veine aux clous I have seen in Henk Bos great essay on coticules you can find here:
    http://bosq.home.xs4all.nl/info%2020...whetstones.pdf
    The Veine aux clous you will find on page 38.
    Since this layer is very rare, the chance might be not very high, that you really scored an example.

    But keep in mind, nobody can really determine a layer by a photo. This is only guessing!
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    I think I still have about 30 coticules. Most are natural combo layer stones and I don't know what vein any of them came from. I care more that I ended that sentence with a preposition than I care about individual veins or mines.

    I bought a 4x11 natural combo coticule from Ardennes several years ago for $150 before they ever bothered to even make note of the vein. It did not matter to the guy at Ardennes any more than it mattered to me. I asked for a relatively fine and fast workhorse and I'm happy with what he sold to me.

    Have fun playing with your rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    I think I still have about 30 coticules.
    This is your photo from 5 or 6 years ago ...........

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    It's funny how you can find that photo so fast!

    I have not stacked them since that time and don't think I will again without further culling.

    Anyway, the Ardennes hone is on the bottom. Maybe I should name it
    La Rock
    or
    La Rockette
    or maybe

    Rodney

    He still don't get no respect!
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    It's funny how you can find that photo so fast!
    When you 'go advanced', click on 'manage attachments', maximize the pop-up, then scroll through all of the photos you've ever posted in the past. They are there. I saved your photo when you posted it years ago. So finding it only took a few minutes, just like these that I posted a few years back ;

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    The one on the extreme right is my La Veinette kosher. Rob or Maurice marked it so on the top honing surface in pencil. I wrote it on the side so I'd remember what it was. Good hone.
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    How long ago did you get it?

    Does anyone have any idea how long they have been designating the individual veins on their hones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    How long ago did you get it?

    Does anyone have any idea how long they have been designating the individual veins on their hones?
    I got it in the mail yesterday from Fendrihan. It came without the wooden case and the letters ZoCc on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    How long ago did you get it?

    Does anyone have any idea how long they have been designating the individual veins on their hones?
    Ron, this was something Bart popularized some years ago. When he had his website going there were reviews of performance based on the specific veins the hones were harvested from. The mine gives these names to specific veins to keep track of who is working where, how much product is still available in a given area of the mine. It became a marketing device after the Bartmeister got hold of it.
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    That is exactly what I had assumed but did not want to declare it without any knowledge (for once).

    I've always been fascinated with coticules but did not approach 1% of what Bart has done with his.
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