Thread: Get a finisher after the coticule?

When using a coticule (I have a La Grise natural combo), would it be a good idea to use another finisher? I'm thinking of getting a C12k/C-NAT/PHIG, but I'm not sure if it will much of an improvement on the coticule edge or not?

Well sure you can get another finisher and go to it following the coticule, but ...... I generally finish on a coticule when I want the typical gentle shaving edge the coticule gives. So if you went to the phig, or whatever, it will end up being that edge. I haven't fooled with the phig in years. Sold the one I had. At that time it was considered if you got a good one, it would be a lot of strokes, but it would leave a fine and smooth shaving edge. Not sure what the supply is like nowadays. The big feature at that time was the economy of the phig. They were inexpensive. IMO the naniwa 12k is a way better hone, but the price is higher too.

I'm also liking my coticule edge but I'm also experimenting with different stones to see if I can achive a better edge, so far, no luck, but the apache seems promising, A C12K I haven't tried but I can not realy imagine it to be any better, the La Grise coti layer is known as a slow but very smooth finishing coti (I think)

I think that the best thing to use after it is either a decently prepared black arkensas or a pasted strop (it could also be that my personal HAD is lingering towards those two as a next aquisitions...)

I really like the smooth edges the coticule gives, especially to the Sheffield razors. My experience has been most razors turn out very nice using a coticule but every now and again I run into one that needs a little something extra. For those I will try the C12K and if that doesn't solve the problem I have, on a few occasions with some German razors, gone to the translucent Arkansas.

I used to go coticule to PHIG. Both are naturals, so each one is different, but I found the edge of my C12k to be more to my liking. As Jimmy said, the coticules are known for giving smooth edges, but I wanted something a bit more keen than my coticule would get me. All about personal preference and what you can do with your stones. Can't hurt to try, if you can afford to foot the bill and put in the time.

Thuri, Cf, Apache, etc...

There is a whole bunch of possibilities ;-) i mostly prefer a Thuri or the Apache

ShaveWares,

For me, I like going to a Naniwa 12k afer my coticules (La Verte or La Veinette).

Again, for me, I find the edges off the coticule not quite 'crisp' enough.

Only your chops (nobody elses ) will tell you whether you need to use another 'stone' after the coticules.

Have fun

Best regards

Russ

I use a coti and finish on the apache strata or red, like the edges off both the red is a new stone and I did the first edge off it yesterday it was superb, I may like the red more than the strata. time will tell, the china door stop I do not like, had 2 and neither was a finisher by my standard.

It really depend on your personal preference and how much you notice very slight differences in edge feel.

Having tried many finishers (16k naniwa, several j-nats, zulu gray, thuringian, etc.) I used to finish on a thuringian after my coticules. Lately though, I've been enjoying the edges straight off the coticules more than those off the thuringian. The difference between the two - to my skin - is very small (with the thuringian edge feeling the tiniest bit more mellow).

Yes, C12K are a crape shoot and probably not 12K. An Ark like, Stone face prep, makes a big difference. Mine is several years old, so I too do not know current production potential.

But really the stones you are talking about are about the same as far as grit performance.

When I use a Coticule, it is post 12K Super Stone and used for the smooth shaving finish.

Perhaps another stone is not your answer and you should look to paste, post your highest grit finisher, Diamond or CBN, then tailor the edge to your liking, as keen or smooth as you need.

A 12K Super Stone and a hanging Chrome Oxide strop are hard to beat and they have absolutely known, bullet proof performance.