Thread: First honing attempt isn't going to well

I also want to get one variable out of the way. Is the razor from eBay not one of the blades from the "do not buy" (my words) list found in the library. If not what type or manufacture is it

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

Yes it could take more than an hour. Tc

That's a little comforting because I was reading that it should only take 15-20 minutes even on new stones so after the 40 minute mark I was getting worried something wasn't right. None of my other stone have even done this, but then again I've never used these high grits before or even norton/niniwa stones before.

Originally Posted by rlmnshvstr8

I also want to get one variable out of the way. Is the razor from eBay not one of the blades from the "do not buy" (my words) list found in the library. If not what type or manufacture is it

Not a 100% sure on the exact manufacture, think its "Ontario Cuttlery". I ran it buy you guys before I bought it, link to the thread is below.

http://straightrazorpalace.com/aucti...ce-honing.html

Yes, lapping stones can take a while.
My Naniwa SS 1k and 3k both took at least 1hr under running water.
With my 8k I gave up after 2 separate 45 minute sessions.
With the 12k I gave up after 1hr.

The 8k and 12k still have about an inch of unlapped surface at each end, so I just keep the blade at the center and avoid these areas.

Cheers.

I'm the same when it comes to lapping/flattening my 8k and chosera 1k. Both seemed to take forever, but of course are very hard stones. I think I spent on the 8k at least an hour before setting aside till another day and then it still took about another hour and a half. I was using at the time a norton flattening stone. But for the method I like glen's method of filling the sink to where the water is just sitting above or on the surface of the stone (stone on bottom while holding the plate). To me this allows for constant movement of water to wash off the stones without splashing and just change out the water when needed. But the trickling water works ok too.

Wow, I am astounded that it could take so long a time to lap a Naniwa SS hone. That has not been my experience with them. I have also seen plenty of warnings not to water soak Naniwa hones for a prolonged period of time on supplier web sites.

Bob

Norton's are some pretty hard stones and it sounds like you got one shaped like a banana. If it's still a ways out, you may consider a more rough approach like some wet/dry sandpaper in a more coarse grit & then follow up with your DMT. Naniwa SS's on the other hand are one of the softer stones and if it's taking a long time you aren't getting enough water on the DMT to rinse out the "mud" so the diamond stone can cut.

This is a good task for you, it will teach you patience...which is most definitely required when honing razors. Take your time and sometimes you may have to walk away & come back when your head is right...just don't give up!

I had to do my Norton with sandpaper as well, after it was flat I went back to the DMT for a bit. This will be much quicker especially if you do have a really big rise in the center of the hone

Originally Posted by shooter74743

Norton's are some pretty hard stones and it sounds like you got one shaped like a banana. If it's still a ways out, you may consider a more rough approach like some wet/dry sandpaper in a more coarse grit & then follow up with your DMT. Naniwa SS's on the other hand are one of the softer stones and if it's taking a long time you aren't getting enough water on the DMT to rinse out the "mud" so the diamond stone can cut.

wow I'm surprised
none of my hones (Nani 1k & 12k, barbers hones or the Norton 4/8k) took anywhere near an hour
the Norton was the worse I admit as it was slightly bowed also, so I went with 240 grit W&D on it until the pencil lines where gone then went to about 320 - 360 W&D for the final clean up, which is all I have and do use on all my other hones to clean them up
these are all done on wet W&D on a glass plate with a regular rinse
the Barbers hones I have taken to 2k W&D to finish them in the same process no problems

Do what you have to do. Sometimes I've used the pavement or a 120 grit diamond plate to get in the ballpark.

Alright, thanks for all the suggestions, with some changes managed to get them all flat. Took about an additional hour in total. Changed up to using a cotton cloth under the DMT plate in standing water, didn't seem to really change how the DMT cut but it was easier on me. Super stone cut faster then the Norton for sure. Now I can actually try to hone on these new stones.