Thread: Imperia la Roccia 7 x 2-1/2 x 3/4 Natural Stone 12-15K Review

Originally Posted by bigeasy1

Oh, I seem to recognize a lot of names for the likes above, and the added comment below.
It has never been our intention to deceive anyone. There was a mention very early of Imperia Italy. This is not the case. China is also not the case. Excuse me, but perhaps all of you would like to give me your sources for all of the items you sell?
If any of you believe it to be deceitful to withhold the origin of the stone, so be it. We consider that information to be trade secret. We do consider it deceitful to purchase a stone on ebay, without questions, and then cancel the order after using your purchase as leverage to get an answer to this question. The offender is here, but I expect others had a grand laugh over it as well.

Mr. Kretz test is on another major forum. For anyone who wishes to look, the very first pic, on the very first post, is of a blade so covered with pitting that the dark round spots extending into the bevel are very obvious. I would have no doubt that he would not be able to get a shaveable edge from any stone. especially if he does not know what is considered the proper way to use a slurrying slate stone.
Have a grand evening,

Riiiight. Because it's not possible to hone past any bad steel. Have a good look at that picture again, there's no pitting anywhere near the edge. This was not the only razor I tested with either, FYI. I won't bother to address the rest of your silly and insulting comment. I'm not the one being deceptive... And I have no motive to call it any other way than what it is. I am not the only person who arrived at the same conclusion either - plenty of well known and respected members have found the same as I did. You will be lucky if this thread doesn't get locked also if you keep up the rude and disrespectful comments.

I agree with eKretz. I was hanging back reading. I was shocked and surprised with the vendor's comments. This will not help the support of the hone in the straight razor community

Bigeasy1 you have been and continue to be deceptive about the very reasonable source questions that have been put to you.

"We consider that information to be a trade secret" simply put is more deception and absolute rubbish as one of my favorite members would say.

Bigeasy1,

What is dishonest, misleading, and deceitful is:

• Not disclosing for months your vested interest in the sale of these hones and acting as if you're just an unrelated bystander.
• Naming a stone with a specific locale it has nothing to do with.
• Not clearing the provenance confusion you created - e.g. you could've stated that "the name has nothing to do with the respective region in Italy" but instead have very intentionally chosen to ignore the requests for clarification.
• Keeping your sourcing 'trade secret' is no excuse for being misleading. Being a part of this community of sharing and learning comes with a responsibility to it, not just to lining your pockets.

Furthermore, you have been violating the site terms:

• Your repeated postings on the forums attempting to bring attention to products you sell constitute unauthorized marketing.
• Your bringing your customer disputes here. You need to manage your business at your business venues.

Due to your conduct over an extended period of time and your refusal to even recognize the problems with it you are no longer welcome on our site.

I really hate shilling. I know that we cannot expect full honesty on the internet or even in this forum, but I appreciate the efforts made to try to keep this place worthy of trust.

Huh??
I know I am New to these forums in general, let alone on SRP.. But it seems like common sense to me that what you have been trying here must contravene some of the 'rules of conduct here'..
Duno exactly what you mean by the purchase/ cancel thing,, I have no knowledge of such thing...
My only point was that I like many I guess attach a certain romanticism to the region which a stone was mined,,, eg.. The coticules of Ardennes,, the Escher of Thuringa,, the Charnley of said forest etc etc etc no need to go on,,, and to be 'mislead' should I say,, or deliberately kept in the dark about said stones origin, in my eyes is not a good selling point, a bit of a deal breaker, that's all I meant..
Perhaps if it's a 'trade secret' then "fine natural stone of unknown origin" would be a fair name for example..
AnywayI was only calling it how I saw it.. I am sorry if I caused any upset or was seen to fan the flames,, not my intentions

Originally Posted by ToolFiendG

AnywayI was only calling it how I saw it.. I am sorry if I caused any upset or was seen to fan the flames,, not my intentions

Personally, I don't think you did anything wrong. Opinions ARE welcome here.

Thanks mate, I've been reading up on a lot of the old treads here lately, and it's nice to hear that from an experienced member like yourself

As per post 54 above, Bigeasy1 is no longer part of this community, and I'm closing the thread.