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    here are my new ones i got this week, all look a bit different but i would recall all of them Bavarian-Frankonian Hones.









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    Did those come from Peter - or are they old school? Guessing by your description they are from the wild. Lucky dog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKretz View Post
    Did those come from Peter - or are they old school? Guessing by your description they are from the wild. Lucky dog!
    Peter clings to his personal stash pretty tight

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKretz View Post
    Did those come from Peter - or are they old school? Guessing by your description they are from the wild. Lucky dog!
    No they are a wild find, really rare to find those these days in that big size.....
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    I have a hone that is completely black and extremely hard. It was sold to me as a Frankonian but your photos make me think that it is not. Doorsch, have you ever seen a Frankonian like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    I have a hone that is completely black and extremely hard. It was sold to me as a Frankonian but your photos make me think that it is not. Doorsch, have you ever seen a Frankonian like this?
    You talk about a very fine slate type of stone which was sold years back from Olivia Seife, these were never prooved by their geologocal origin but sold as "Frankonians"....

    The ones shown here are "real" Bavarian Frankonians under a geological Term which means the quarry actually still exists today in this region, but its hard to come over bigger sized stones, because you mainly find open waste material lying around....

    The Frankonian and the Brown Frankonian ist still listed on Olivias Page for comparison shots:
    http://www.olivia-seife.de/steinvergleich.htm#Brownie
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    Quote Originally Posted by doorsch View Post
    You talk about a very fine slate type of stone which was sold years back from Olivia Seife, these were never prooved by their geologocal origin but sold as "Frankonians"....

    The ones shown here are "real" Bavarian Frankonians under a geological Term which means the quarry actually still exists today in this region, but its hard to come over bigger sized stones, because you mainly find open waste material lying around....
    Yes, I believe that mine was originally sold by Olivia. Performance-wise, it's like a black piece of glass--kinda useless without another stone's slurry on top of it. I'm going to have to find myself a real Frankonian some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    I have a hone that is completely black and extremely hard. It was sold to me as a Frankonian but your photos make me think that it is not. Doorsch, have you ever seen a Frankonian like this?
    Do you like the results you get with youre Frankonian? I heard they deliver very nicr results as finishing stones....these are ones i never personally had in my hand....
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    Quote Originally Posted by doorsch View Post
    Do you like the results you get with youre Frankonian? I heard they deliver very nicr results as finishing stones....these are ones i never personally had in my hand....
    It's like honing on glass. It does not feel like it cuts at all and there is virtually no feedback. I had it in my hand at 4AM today but have not honed on it for years. I will play with it again soon and let you know if I have any other thoughts about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doorsch View Post
    here are my new ones i got this week, all look a bit different but i would recall all of them Bavarian-Frankonian Hones.









    Very nice examples Sebastian. As exxplained elsewhere, these are clear and perfect examples of vintage Frankonian hones!
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