I currently have three razors one brand new bought from SRD it shaves very smooth. Then I bought one from ebay which is at home I am currently away at the time. My bud who got me into straight razor shaving who is with me has a norton 4k/8k and a 12k polishing stone. My wife sent me a cheap razor from pakistan that is what i currently am using to try my honing skills that in itself maybe a mistake but I got it to shave but it does not shave like my Ralf Aust. But i did get it to shave it from what i have read these razors are not worth shaving with anyway. Two golden men. To tell the truth with the time i have on my hands its relaxing trying to get the razor to shave.