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    Yeah I love cotis like that. I would trade you a fast easier coti or buy that if you tire of it.



    Edit: if any of you think i actually want his coti by that post you're stupid. I was trying to make him realize what a nice stone he has. People would love to have it. I have plenty of my own cotis thank you mini mods.

    Back to B&B for me, enjoy naziville here.
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    Dont fret. That coti I am sure will give you the results you want eventually I am sure. It will just take time learning it. That to me is the cool thing about cotis is each one is like a puzzle each being unique. Some are really fast but not good finishers some are really slow and not good finishers. Some are really fast with slurry but slower than time passing while being stuck in an elevator on water.

    Its just all about figuring out that particular stone. That is a really cool coti by the way. Its definitely rarer without the backing. Try doing a heavy slurry and then do passes till it turns grey, Keep count of how many laps that is. I am not saying slightly gray either but like gray gray. So say it takes 30 laps (just a number for examples sake). Now dilute. I just do a little squirt from my spray bottle. Not much just enough to weaken the slurry. Then do that many laps again. Dilute, number of laps, dilute, laps dilute laps till your at clear water then do the number of laps. Then completely rinse the coti and the razor ensuring that they're are absolutely no slurry particles and do laps. Then you can try a micro bevel if you would like and add a layer of tape and do like 20-50 laps depending on how fast or slow that coti is and then strop and shave. You should be in the clear but again YMMV as all cotis are different.
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    I shaved with two razors honed on it tonight. One was better than the other for sure but they both pulled on my upper lip and the coarse hair on my chin. Close but no cigar. I can get a good slurry and it does turn "grey" grey. I will try to count how many laps I do as you instructed and try to dilute and do they same. I use one drop from my finger at a time so not much water. As far as selling, this will probably be one of those stones I'll never sell. It's too cool looking and different. I guess they're all like that which is why their are stone hoarders
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephHoffer View Post
    I shaved with two razors honed on it tonight. One was better than the other for sure but they both pulled on my upper lip and the coarse hair on my chin. Close but no cigar. I can get a good slurry and it does turn "grey" grey. I will try to count how many laps I do as you instructed and try to dilute and do they same. I use one drop from my finger at a time so not much water. As far as selling, this will probably be one of those stones I'll never sell. It's too cool looking and different. I guess they're all like that which is why their are stone hoarders
    If you want to make it easier on yourself google glen's or lynn's one stone honing method with a coticule, both are great methods.You could also go to coticule.be and look under the coticule sharpening academy. There are step by step process' to get a shave ready edge. Just a suggestion for you.

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    Oh you poor man. That horrible rock won't do you any good. It's a cursing coticule that in time will eat your razors.

    I will help you. Just send it to me and I'll make it lift the curse from your razors.

    :-)
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    I've watched Glen and Lynn's video as well as all of the Coticule.be vids. Also lots from the superior shave. It will just take time on the hone I'm afraid and one day I'll have my "AH HA" moment and that will be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephHoffer View Post
    I've watched Glen and Lynn's video as well as all of the Coticule.be vids. Also lots from the superior shave. It will just take time on the hone I'm afraid and one day I'll have my "AH HA" moment and that will be it.
    This is very true. My first hone was a coticule (against all advice to the contrary) and it took me a while but I watched a lot of videos and kept playing with it and then one day it just clicked and I was like oh well that was easy why didn't I try that the first time.

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    Good news! I got it. I was watching a Gary Haywood video and I noticed that when he was honing I heard a squeak. Almost like when your doing dishes and you rub your finger on a clean wet plate and it makes that sound. And you can't make that sound without pressure. Not barring down on it but a little. So I made a thick slurry and started with small circles and half strokes and it build a dark grey slurry fairly quickly with some pressure this time (I was honing very very light like I thought I was supposed to). Once it was really dark I added a drop of water and continued with the same circles and half strokes. After 5 dilutions I dipped the razor is a glass of water, swished some of the slurry off and continued with it. I did that twice more then washed the stone off and the razor and used just water and like x-strokes. It was very sharp at this point. Popping hairs a few mm off my arm. After I stropped it I could finally do a HHT on the heel, middle and toe. It shaved very nicely and I'm very happy with the results. I honed another razor (just to be sure it wasn't a fluke) the same way and it turned out great . Thanks for all the advice and encouragement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephHoffer View Post
    Good news! I got it. I was watching a Gary Haywood video and I noticed that when he was honing I heard a squeak. Almost like when your doing dishes and you rub your finger on a clean wet plate and it makes that sound. And you can't make that sound without pressure. Not barring down on it but a little. So I made a thick slurry and started with small circles and half strokes and it build a dark grey slurry fairly quickly with some pressure this time (I was honing very very light like I thought I was supposed to). Once it was really dark I added a drop of water and continued with the same circles and half strokes. After 5 dilutions I dipped the razor is a glass of water, swished some of the slurry off and continued with it. I did that twice more then washed the stone off and the razor and used just water and like x-strokes. It was very sharp at this point. Popping hairs a few mm off my arm. After I stropped it I could finally do a HHT on the heel, middle and toe. It shaved very nicely and I'm very happy with the results. I honed another razor (just to be sure it wasn't a fluke) the same way and it turned out great . Thanks for all the advice and encouragement.
    Awesome news brother, you don't want to be bearing down and flexing the blade but pressure is a must with a coticule until the finishing stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephHoffer View Post
    Good news! I got it. I was watching a Gary Haywood video and I noticed that when he was honing I heard a squeak. Almost like when your doing dishes and you rub your finger on a clean wet plate and it makes that sound. And you can't make that sound without pressure. Not barring down on it but a little. So I made a thick slurry and started with small circles and half strokes and it build a dark grey slurry fairly quickly with some pressure this time (I was honing very very light like I thought I was supposed to). Once it was really dark I added a drop of water and continued with the same circles and half strokes. After 5 dilutions I dipped the razor is a glass of water, swished some of the slurry off and continued with it. I did that twice more then washed the stone off and the razor and used just water and like x-strokes. It was very sharp at this point. Popping hairs a few mm off my arm. After I stropped it I could finally do a HHT on the heel, middle and toe. It shaved very nicely and I'm very happy with the results. I honed another razor (just to be sure it wasn't a fluke) the same way and it turned out great . Thanks for all the advice and encouragement.
    Awesome, glad to see you're doing well!

    And indeed, pressure, good catch, Joseph. This is something I tend to forget to advise people, as it becomes second nature with practice.

    Pressure with coticule honing can make quite difference. Mainly when setting a bevel that is, although you might squeeze out some extra keenness with pressured X-strokes on light slurry or plain water.

    As you say, not too much, but enough. I try to not put more pressure on a razor than I would on a pencil eraser.
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