Thread: Suehiro Gokumyo 10k, Chosera 10k or Yaginoshima Asagi?

Hello all,

I need your help.

I do not know which one to choose:

Suehiro Gokumyo 10k
Chosera 10k
Yaginoshima Asagi


Please advise.

Thank you

The answer might depend upon whether you want a prepolisher or whether this is to be the "destination" stone.

I am a big fan of the Chosera line and use a 1-5-10K progression on every full honing job. I find, however, that the 10K finish has a little "tooth" and requires further finishing to get the best shaving edge.

I do not own a 10K Gokumyo so cannot comment other than that others have recently remarked that they can shave nicely off of it. I do have a G200 (20K) and it is capable of producing a terrific edge so that is easy to believe.

Now, the jnat might potentially produce the smoothest edge BUT.. unless you have considerable experience with them and are willing to put in the time to learn how to use it you will probably be disappointed. Also, there is so much variation from stone to stone even within a group of supposedly the same stones that it can be a bit of a crap shoot finding a one that suits you. That is, of course, part of the fun of the sport.


rs,
Tack

I don't have the 2 synthetics so can't comment on them.

I have a Yaginoshima Asagi. I don't shave off it, tho I probably could.
I can 99% guarantee the one you're looking at will be different to mine.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I don't have the 2 synthetics so can't comment on them.

I have a Yaginoshima Asagi. I don't shave off it, tho I probably could.
I can 99% guarantee the one you're looking at will be different to mine.

I am looking for a stone around 8k (6k-10k) as a bridge to 15k.

Originally Posted by rmihai

I am looking for a stone around 8k (6k-10k) as a bridge to 15k.

Never discount a good 8k stone. Norton, Shapton, Naniwa, doesn't matter. You can easily shave off the 8k or bridge to a higher grit finish.

The 8k is a perfect bridge to a good shave. Please believe that.a

Originally Posted by rmihai

I am looking for a stone around 8k (6k-10k) as a bridge to 15k.

Which 15k? Are you talking shapton? The reason is, even though there is more to a stone than grit. If your 15k is a shapton then the shapton and the gokumyo 10k both have a particle size of 1.0 micron. And the gokumyo I think (my ASSUMPTION so far) has a smoother particle shape than the shapton thus producing less "tooth" and more smoothness. All this is assuming the 15k is a shapton. So if it is shapton you have then a gokumyo will not bridge but will be next to it when it comes to a progression if not a little past it.

All I'm trying to say is, don't look at grit rating. They can vary GREATLY between company's and countries. Find out the micron particle size then you will have a better base line for your search.

Originally Posted by rlmnshvstr8

Which 15k? Are you talking shapton? The reason is, even though there is more to a stone than grit. If your 15k is a shapton then the shapton and the gokumyo 10k both have a particle size of 1.0 micron. And the gokumyo I think (my ASSUMPTION so far) has a smoother particle shape than the shapton thus producing less "tooth" and more smoothness. All this is assuming the 15k is a shapton. So if it is shapton you have then a gokumyo will not bridge but will be next to it when it comes to a progression if not a little past it.

All I'm trying to say is, don't look at grit rating. They can vary GREATLY between company's and countries. Find out the micron particle size then you will have a better base line for your search.

And this is why it's best to stick with stones belonging to a system rather than mixing & matching.

The same 15k Shapton stone is called 12k in Japan to add more confusion/clarity.