Thread: Shoubudani type 100 problems

Hi guys,

I have problem to pass HHT test with shoubudani type 100.

My progression is
1. Chosera 1k
2. Norton 4k
3. Norton 8k
4. Naniwa SS12k
5. Shoubudani type 100

After Naniwa SS12k I pass HHT test without any problems (no stroping) but when I use Shoubudani I can't pass HHT test anymore. Maybe HHT1.

Do you have any idea why?

I tray to use it with heavy slurry with nagura stone, with light slurry with water only... Same problem always.

Thanks a lot for your help.
Cheers,
Davor

EDIT
some pictures of my shoubudani and nagura stone




All stones are lapped with Atoma 400.

Did you strop after the Shobudani ?
There is a certain point in the honing progression where the HHT of the stones gets worse then before....

For me counts the result after the last stone and stropping....besides we know that the HHT is an indicator but not the all over thing....

How was the shave? Did you try ?

Your 12k is a finisher. The Jnat your using is not going to increase the level of sharpness. In fact, I would suggest that it may step the edge back a little from that of the 12k. My suggestion is to go to the Jnat after 8k. See how you like the edge and decide if you want to use it or your 12k. But I don't think you'll benefit much from combining the two stones. Pick one and decide how you like the finish.

Originally Posted by doorsch

Did you strop after the Shobudani ?
There is a certain point in the honing progression where the HHT of the stones gets worse then before....

For me counts the result after the last stone and stropping....besides we know that the HHT is an indicator but not the all over thing....

How was the shave? Did you try ?

After stroping I can pas HTT and shave was nice. But this is something what bother me so I decide to ask more experienced sirs.

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

Your 12k is a finisher. The Jnat your using is not going to increase the level of sharpness. In fact, I would suggest that it may step the edge back a little from that of the 12k. My suggestion is to go to the Jnat after 8k. See how you like the edge and decide if you want to use it or your 12k. But I don't think you'll benefit much from combining the two stones. Pick one and decide how you like the finish.

Good point. I didn't try to use him directly after 8k. Will try and let you know. Thanks.

Originally Posted by davorvfr

Good point. I didn't try to use him directly after 8k. Will try and let you know. Thanks.

I have a type 100. Its a nice little stone and really gives you bang for the buck. And the edge from it is really nice. But if you want to bring your edge further than your 12k is capable, you might want to consider a Suehiro 20k. 8k, 12k, 20k....that would work nicely. In fact that's how I finish my razors. But the type 100 is capable of giving you a very nice edge.

Natural stone particles leave more stuff on the edge that needs to come off with the strop. It's true with razors, knives, tools, etc. They gain more from the use of a strop than does an edge with very deep narrow grooves.

I don't ever HHT a razor straight off of a stone, it's a party trick at that point, because you never know what is actually cutting the hair - it could very well be sharp bits of foil that are left on the edge.

If your stone is hard, it should be able to ultimately surpass the sharpness of a nani 12k on a good quality razor - as long as you let it settle in. The edge that the stone makes should be straighter right along the edge line, and less bitey feeling on your face.

So, don't sweat it comparing HHT until after it's stropped.

Ok. Thanks a lot for your advices guys.

Why do you care about the HHT if the purpose of the razor is to shave you, not pass a HHT?

The shave, is it better or worse? That's what matters. Also, is your nagura a tomonagura, or an "Asano" nagura? I can't recognize the stone by its color. The asano stones are coarser, and generally, not the best choice to finish an edge, the tomonagua are great.