Thread: Norton Razor Hone

Originally Posted by sheajohnw

The competition axe men pay $$$$$$ for certain hones. Competitors will often pay very high prices for hard to get items that may give them an advantage in a tight competition.

They just sharpen their axes with this stone or what?? I don't get it. Why ...

We have guys here who pay a lot more money for hones than most are willing to pay , this sport could be looked at that way too like why would anyone pay the money for some of the razors out there.

If it's something that helps them out in their endeavors , why not pay what it's worth to them, Heck ask some what they,ve paid for some Jnats or rare Eschers. Or even the Goyko 20 k. Tc

Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

They just sharpen their axes with this stone or what?? I don't get it. Why ...

There have been threads on this before where it was explained that axe competition is highly competitive and the competitors will pay a lot for certain hard to get hones that are believed to deliver a more competitive edge to their axes.

Originally Posted by sheajohnw

There have been threads on this before where it was explained that axe competition is highly competitive and the competitors will pay a lot for certain hard to get hones that are believed to deliver a more competitive edge to their axes.

Thanks man, my usual search topics aren't competitive wood chopping.. So thanks for filling me in.

They (the axe men) use them as touch up hones between races. I don't know if they do more when they have time at home, but they probably need something that will work dry or with little prep and little fanfare between heats.

Anyone who has ever used a frictionite hone on something dry will recognize that that type of stone will work a lot nicer dry than the modern resin bound hones. They're resistant to gouging and can usually be cleaned with a rub stone.

I sold a half dozen frictionites (and super punjabs) for a friend, and every one of them went to australia. I thought the frictionites were nice razor hones, and with tools they have a dreamy feeling on clear water that little else does, but the level of finish was common to many decent stones. If I were using something dry on an axe, though, with little fanfare, they'd be at the top of my list.

That explains it, thanks Dave. Always a pleasure to hear your opinion on topics such as this !

I wonder what a competition axe costs.

What I am wondering is why do they need to get them so finely sharp?
Wouldn't the blade be too thin at the edge?
The top prizes must be worth while.

Originally Posted by RusenBG

First of all not Sham reviewed this barber hone , but Mike / Modine / as he reviews a hell lot of barber hones .
Mike put a lot of time , money and effort to do something for everybody , so i dont thing this statement is apropriate , sir .
They both and other people , all of them reputable members , make something good for all of us ,lazy users , to see the diference in edge , that diferente hones give .
I can assure you that theyre efforts are not related to sales of advertizing and promoting anything , they do it for the sport . I dont think that the Modines review is raizing the hone prize , maybe many honers respect his opinion for stones and edge , as they go mad for this barber hone . Mike haz a very powerfull microscopes and make his reviews very profetionaly .
He haz experience , more than a 80 % of us here , as he try nany finishers and barber hones . If you read carefuly , he claims that many of them even degrade a 8 K edge significant .
I thing that there is needed a effort to do what they do , so lets respect them for theyre honesty . Doesnt like your statement and i disagree with you .
If you or somebody else think those reviews are incorect , let be free to make , documentate ad post Better reviews for this barber hones . In other words proove that those datas are incorect , but embended with evidences .

Yeah sure it's accurate if you believe that scratch pattern defines how well an edge shaves. Just because it looks pretty under a microscope doesn't mean it shaves well. The only stone ever proven to be 20k grit level is the coming I. If they could produce those edges back in 1905 then why did they stop? They would still have the technology and materials.

I'm not saying he is right or wrong but I would love to see an IR spec analysis to see if it's just Aloxite or Carborundum that is just nicely bonded.

People who Google these stones see the threads written about them and it absolutely drives up the price. I've had 3 frictionite 00's however and have never felt they did much more for a razor than natural hones or naniwa that people have claimed thwyre better than. I have however sold them for a premium because desire them and their "legendary" status. I haven't used it one way or another but I wouldn't pay that much for a barber hone. Just me personally.

Originally Posted by scag315

The only stone ever proven to be 20k grit level is the coming I.

Could you explain what you mean?