Thread: Escher Droescher label similarities

I always here the confusion of escher Droescher is a Droescher an escher and so on. I know some Droeschers are also labeled escher, but even the ones that aren't probably came from the same hole in the ground.
Some how I didn't notice till now how similar the labels really are.

They must have had a kind of cooperation and/or agreement that Droescher has the rights to use this typo/Artwork.....or Escher directly produced them like this for Droescher...Iam sure the labels have been printed on the same machine or at the same printing works....

My personal thinking is that they used the similarities within their names (Dröscher in German) as a kind of marketing the products, because the Escher Hones already in the past had a well known name beeing sold in US. As Severin Droescher came to America and sold these stones it probably was easier to sell hones beeing already known with these type of labels...DroEscher ;-)

Its just a thinking of me, so dont take it too serious...but this similarity didnt happen just as a incident ;-)

With that example I think it is likely an Escher. I know that an Escher collector I knew had a Fox labelled hone that he said was a for sure Escher. What I tend to go by is the sizes of the cut stones. Escher had a few sizes that they manufactured, while Hohenzollern, another Thuringan stone company, had the colors, but different sized stones.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

With that example I think it is likely an Escher. I know that an Escher collector I knew had a Fox labelled hone that he said was a for sure Escher. What I tend to go by is the sizes of the cut stones. Escher had a few sizes that they manufactured, while Hohenzollern, another Thuringan stone company, had the colors, but different sized stones.

Jimmy Hohenzollern hones have been sold from Severin Droescher....



This was from here
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...huringian.html

Droescher. The E in Droescher is a way of giving the same sound as an umlaut. It gets used most when keyboard has no umlaut or when working in a foreign language to German.

Originally Posted by doorsch

Jimmy Hohenzollern hones have been sold from Severin Droescher....



This was from here
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...huringian.html

Yeah, I know, but they weren't from Escher. A different source. Hence all of the sizes are different.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Yeah, I know, but they weren't from Escher. A different source. Hence all of the sizes are different.

Why could they have not been from Escher, as you see the similarities between Droescher and Escher labels i believe the source was from Escher on these cases, we also have the Escher labels with the S.R.D. sidelabels which says "manufactured expressly for S.R.D. In NY" E.S. (Escher & Son)...



Any source on this statement Jimmy ? These could have been especially cut....

Originally Posted by doorsch

Any source on this statement Jimmy ? These could have been especially cut....

I am making an assumption based on hones with both labels that have passed through my hands. I've had Hohenzollerns in all of the colors, and they were all the same size. Something like 7 or 8" x 2&1/2 or so, and thicker than Escher cut theirs. Most Eschers were 7x1&5/8, 3/4 thick, the BD were 6x2 IIRC. The large one was 10x2 and 7/8" thick. Rough measurements, I only have one 5x2&1/2x3/4 and a 7x1&5/8 now.

I could be (shudder) wrong of course, I was wrong once before.

Ask Kees, he has a y/g escher BD and a y/g Hohenzollern IIRC. I also felt that the stones weren't the same in performance and general characteristics, when I had both brands.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I am making an assumption based on hones with both labels that have passed through my hands. I've had Hohenzollerns in all of the colors, and they were all the same size. Something like 7 or 8" x 2&1/2 or so, and thicker than Escher cut theirs. Most Eschers were 7x1&5/8, the BD were 6x2 IIRC. The large one was 10x2 and 7/8" thick. Rough measurements, I only have one 5x2&1/2x3/4 and a 7x1&5/8 now.

I could be (shudder) wrong of course, I was wrong once before.

Ask Kees, he has a y/g escher BD and a y/g Hohenzollern IIRC. I also felt that the stones weren't the same in performance and general characteristics, when I had both brands.

Yeah can agree on that there might have been different qualities...this just due the different time frames stones have quarried and we have to know that the stones also had different origins in concerns of different quarries and different layers....

And for sure Jimmy we cant reconstruate how it really was...as mentioned this were only my two cents...another one has different two cents...

Originally Posted by doorsch

Yeah can agree on that there might have been different qualities...this just due the different time frames stones have quarried and we have to know that the stones also had different origins in concerns of different quarries and different layers....

And for sure Jimmy we cant reconstruate how it really was...as mentioned this were only my two cents...another one has different two cents...

This is something that has always interested me. Before we realized that the naturals are all 'ancient' no matter if they were quarried 100 years ago, or yesterday, people used to say that the 'old' ones were better.

I've suspected that they may have been better, simply because there was more to choose from. More veins and more quarries. As the supply was used up, less and less to choose from. OTOH, maybe some veins we dig up now are better than those quarried in the past ........