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Originally Posted by Euclid440

Yes, you can, but using a Diamond plate to set a bevel has its own issues. Diamonds cuts very deep that can cause chipping at the finish stones, especially when used with too much pressure.

You can use the diamond plate for correction, but I would not recommend a full bevel set on a Diamond Plate for a new honer. A good 1K synthetic is not that expensive. A King is under $30 and the Norton 4k will easily reset a bevel. Both will give better results than a diamond plate.

One final question: Can/should I use the DMT to create a slurry when I want to hone my razor? If so, then I'll be saving myself a few $. I saw a great tutorial on youtube where the guy was using a 6K Nagura pocket stone to create a slurry. He was using a Norton 4k/8k, just like I will be. He said he did this with no ill-effects.

So, could I achieve the same result with the DMT by CKTG? Thanks!~

here is the video for reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tll72KFPdrM

The CNTG plate is not a DMT, DMT is a brand name, but they do perform the same, some say DMT are flatter, but I have several plates from several manufactures and really in the same grit range, they perform the same, for lapping synthetic stones. CNTG plates perform very well.

You can slurry with any diamond plate, but slurry with synthetic stones is different than natural stones. Natural Nagura stones come in different grits and the grit is frangible, breaks down to smaller grits to better polish.

A Diamond plate, or Synthetic Stone slurry is just bit of the same stone or both the 1k and the 6k stone in this case and will not breakdown, but can be more aggressive. More aggressive is a two edge sword and the question is do you need that aggression?

I do not slurry Synthetic stones. I have never felt the need. A 1k stone is very aggressive with just plain water, experiment and judge for yourself.

One bit of advice, there are tons of “systems, techniques and mentors especially on line. Pick one and follow it, mixing techniques for a new guy almost never works out well.

After you are able to get good results, then you can experiment and tweak your technique. There are many way to get to a keen, comfortable shaving edge. Some work well, some don’t, as you can see by reading some of the Help Me honing threads…

As one guy I coached recently said, “There sure is a lot of little things, you don’t get from watching a video, no matter how many times you watch it.”

For the life of me I cannot figure out why that guy would be using a 6k Nagura to get slurry on a Norton. The norton already cuts fast, and finer than the 6k slurry. Last time I took a razor across mine, going from 4k to 8k only took me 50 strokes, no slurry, 0 pressure all the way, and I'm pretty sure I didn't NEED the last 10, I just took a few extra to cover the base. It won't hurt anything, but it won't help* anything either in my humble opinion. YMMV.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it might be more of a visual indicator than anything. He mentions "adding color" to the stone, and I think it helps him to see that he is putting even pressure on the razor on each pass along the hone. Of course, you could use water "puddling" as your indicator too. Having watched the video multiple times, that would be my guess...

Well, swarf builds up quickly and makes a black/grey visual indicator on that stone. Looks like he's also using too much pressure. If I remember right, the only time you should use any pressure on a straight is during bevel set on the 1k. Your final strokes on a 1k should be just the weight of the blade, and 0 pressure on the 4k, 8k, and finisher should you opt to use one. But hey, if it works it works. Just 'cause he does it different than me doesn't mean he's 'wrong.'

You can use pressure at any grit the trick is to continue working the razor reducing pressure to zero to leave the shallowest scratch marks possible before moving foward