Thread: advice please: next jnat

Originally Posted by ultrasoundguy2003

I would have to vote for Black as well.
Reason jnats has pointed me in the right direction since I got started in the Japanese naturals hunt and exploring different stones and naguras. I trust him when it comes to this topic. My 2 cents.
Oh and he is a seller of these. But he is too humble to tell you that part.
Nakayama Kiita Maruka and Nagura razor j nats | Japanese Whetstones
See for yourself. Like the mod says your money take your chances or work with a Trusted Seller. who offers returns.
Dont see that everyday.
Best of luck on your choice.

Ahhhh, thanks mate. I'll have a little look at his stock.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

These threads are so frustrating.


My Tsushima & my Suitas are most likely completely different to someone elses.


Aoto can run the full gammut to replace 1k nearly up to 8k synthetics.


Nakayama stones can be brilliant or they can be rubbish.


You can't tell anything from stone names & it's hard to tell much from pictures either.


You pays your money & you takes your chances.... Or you find a buyer who will work with you to help achieve what you require from a stone.

Thanks. Appreciate it's more art than science mate, and I think you nailed it with:

"You pays your money & you takes your chances"

So I'm kind of hoping the more experienced on here can, with benefit of the facts I have on hand - e.g., photos - help close the odds a bit and maybe steer me towards the safer bet.

...and I'm kinda hearing tsushima black is the better bet

Originally Posted by stillshunter

...and I'm kinda hearing tsushima black is the better bet

It's the better bet if your supplier will take it back if you don't like it

Originally Posted by onimaru55

It's the better bet if your supplier will take it back if you don't like it

You are so correct. That was a deal maker for me when I found jnats. He actually educated me first and then let me make the choice that fit my needs and expectations. His posts are longer than most, but he is imparting all the parameters before a purchase.
Trust and return policy is huge

I just avoid jnats all together.. way to many confusing names to deal with.. okimodo tomayushi nagatosagi yoshikusitaka..

To those that enjoy and learn Japanese naturals I salute you.. truly learning the names and differences must be half the battle. Then learning the stone...

Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

I just avoid jnats all together.. way to many confusing names to deal with.. okimodo tomayushi nagatosagi yoshikusitaka..

To those that enjoy and learn Japanese naturals I salute you.. truly learning the names and differences must be half the battle. Then learning the stone...

Nope , you just need to tell the seller what you wanna do with the rock , then it's up to him to hook you up if it can be done.

Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

I just avoid jnats all together.. way to many confusing names to deal with.. okimodo tomayushi nagatosagi yoshikusitaka..

To those that enjoy and learn Japanese naturals I salute you.. truly learning the names and differences must be half the battle. Then learning the stone...

You know Soldier on this one onimaru55 is right on point. It may take a little but you will get it. Lets start with just the First word in the name of a jnat. Word one tells you which mine it comes from. So a Nakayama blah blah blah. Tells us which mine. Each mine has different qualities. Lets stop there.
In a year you will be speaking and knowing exactly what this all means. similiar to how you learned cotis, Geezer helped you. We will help as well. onimaru55 is so right, you need to interact with a trusted seller, tell him what you want to accomplish. Bevel set to finish, just a hard finisher/polisher or anything inbetween.
Or course this takes time, education ,and a trusted seller who is willing to teach.

I'm curious, sure everyone else is: which one did you go with and how are you getting on?

Originally Posted by jnats

I'm curious, sure everyone else is: which one did you go with and how are you getting on?

G'day all, well it wasn't an easy decision, but after weighing up all the options I went with....



The observant among you will notice it's an odd looking JNat....looks almost western. So yes, I actually decided that I have an excellent JNat, which I've yet to really understand properly. It's a beautiful little Honyama Asagi Tomae - and full nagura progression. So instead with that money obviously burning a hole in my pocket I'd venture to see what the other dark world of coticules had to offer.
....it's more a mixed bag than JNats results wise, though already when you nail it - easier on Sheffield more a challenge on Solingen (only twice so far though) - then it gives a very, very different edge. I shouldn't be surprised but the differences are quite stark.

Big thanks to all for your help. It's not gone to waste as I'll 'need' another stone very soon....just not bought the next JNat immediately.
(also playing more with knives so will likely lean towards a suita to do pre-finishing razors and knife work)

Originally Posted by stillshunter

G'day all, well it wasn't an easy decision, but after weighing up all the options I went with....


see what the other dark world of coticules had to offer.
....it's more a mixed bag than JNats results wise, though already when you nail it - easier on Sheffield more a challenge on Solingen (only twice so far though) - then it gives a very, very different edge. I shouldn't be surprised but the differences are quite stark.

Big thanks to all for your help. It's not gone to waste as I'll 'need' another stone very soon....just not bought the next JNat immediately.
(also playing more with knives so will likely lean towards a suita to do pre-finishing razors and knife work)

Thanks, that's a pretty looking coticule. I appreciate your synopsis of coticule to jnats, I find that's pretty spot on. Kudos to trying something new.