Thread: Glass stones vs Shapton pros?

Originally Posted by jigane

The 320 pro and 1,5k pro is specifically made for carbon steel only, according to shapton, just so you know.

That's not the information I have. Can you link your source ?

https://jendeindustries.wordpress.co...-glass-series/

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by onimaru55

That's not the information I have. Can you link your source ?

He may be misinterpreting the marketing "specially designed for even scratch pattern in carbon steel" which it says on the sleeve for mine as it came today!

Which is by no means an 'only' it's a great thing and the logical reason for it being the "closest to diamonds"- carbon steel is very hard and hard to sharpen, some things that will scratch it also chip (diamonds) but to be able to scratch (sharpen) and not chip, but leave a uniform pattern? What it means- your dealing with strong, sharp, finely graded abrasives- which is perfect for me and what I desired in it- thanks again for the tip Onimaru55


As for the stone:
It's fantastic. I have yet to put a razor to it, but I already know the results will be ideal. Instead I threw my wife's shun at it, (I had a lot going on and they give free lifetime sharpening- DON'T. It had some knicks and what not when she sent it in- it came back out of an electric knife sharpener, and as far as I can tell- the used a grinder to remove the knicks and get a suggestive blade profile before feeding it through that garbage, as it came back with a very stout/obtuse micro bevel that couldn't slice anything- she handed it to me and asked that I do my science and fix it when I found some time) and it is very very good at removing tough bevel damage and establishing a new convex bevel. Very happy with the scratch pattern and the speed is good- that knife was a B&*^% to remove tons of steel from, and last time I picked it up, I assessed the damage and went to it- but so much of the bevel was destroyed and needed to be rebuilt, I didn't want to spend the hour+ just reestablishing the bevel. Got the new bevel shaped in about an hour with clean up which isn't too bad. The rest will be much faster now.

I know it will be great on hardened razors with chipped edges- if you can cut tough steels like carbon steel evenly and exit cleanly with sharp particles- it'll be perfect and a heluva lot faster on those

Unfortunately though, Tom did not cite the source for his information in that link, so I'm not sure how credible it is, as he make no claim of it being "according to Shapton."

Originally Posted by Steve56

https://jendeindustries.wordpress.co...-glass-series/

Cheers, Steve

....geez. Thanks so much steve..... Now I gotta buy the green one too.

Very useful link! I wonder how that #120 white compares to sigma power select?
I mostly just use suita, and zone into it with Japanese chisels and kana. But sometimes an O1 bench chisel rolls off and hits the floor.

Lol, lots of interesting discussion.

Harrelson Stanley of Shapton USA makes an interesting statement about the Traditional (Pro) here, but it is not clearly enough stated.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGARZEesJfA

He also comments about not recommending the HC Glass Stone for stainless here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i5r0ZFvHCJQ

The comment is at about 5:30, and is not directly related to the discussion of the Traditional line but it is interesting.

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by jnats

....geez. Thanks so much steve..... Now I gotta buy the green one too.

Very useful link! I wonder how that #120 white compares to sigma power select?
I mostly just use suita, and zone into it with Japanese chisels and kana. But sometimes an O1 bench chisel rolls off and hits the floor.

The 2k Shapton Pro is my go-to for bevel setting. I believe you'll like it very much!

Cheers, Steve

Here ya go jnats, just for you:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFKp5nrentU

There isn't anything much interesting past the stats.

Cheers, Steve

I have Shapton ceramic on tempered glass (I am confused by the "glass" vs. "pro" terminology here) 500, 1K, 4K, 8K, 16K and love them.

So much easier to use than the King 1K, Norton 4-8K,
12K grit natural water stone from the Guangxi province of China with slurry stone.

Originally Posted by Steve56

The 2k Shapton Pro is my go-to for bevel setting. I believe you'll like it very much!

Cheers, Steve

Thanks, but If you're talking about razors- I'm set. If not a kiita, suita, aoto, tsushima, ban, ikarishi ..whatever. it's usually a S GS 3k or a *shudders* c1k.
It's just this one stupid knife with carbon and stainless clad that 'someone' beat the heck out of.
My shigefusa and other knives, tools and razors are set. I don't think I could be happier- except It's the sub 1k that's of interest in synthetics, filed that- now this green moss might be handy for the stainless crap in the future. I've cured my HAD. ...I swear.