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01-08-2016, 06:46 PM #11
I see. I just recently found out aboput the suehiros. more on that later.
My minimalist approach would be glass 2k,6k,10k, the 2k instead of any 1k since its rumored to be fast, and the 6k because its the first one that leaves an
IMO good scratch free finish according to the glass stone pdf floating around. and the 10k because it leaves shallower max-min valleys than the 16k/shapton recommends the 10k for razors and not the 16k/jende did a macro comparison of all the shappros and the glass stones and the 10k left a mirror finish the 16k left scratches. I saw it with my own eyes.
The 320 and 1,5k shap pros are for carbon only, the rest is made for both carbon/ss supposedly.
Also I've been plowing through all the knife/razor/kitchen forums for over a month now and according to those:
the best 1k is the chosera. The shap pro 1k is a very fast cutting 800, and the 2k is the "best stone" in the pro series. Possibly the best 2k out there. The 1k chosera is about the same grit or slightly below the 2k pro.
And what did I do armed with that combined knowledge?? I ordered a 2k glassSince its the fastest 2k I figured it would be my 1k and 2k all in one stone. And since no one can really specify what 1k really is, it could be similar in grit to the chosera 1k, who knows? I guess I'll find out.
If i need to go below this I have 320 dmt and 45 and 65 micron diamond plates.
Now I'm looking into a 10-12k or a finisher really but not one of those über sharp ones like the 30ks and jnats. and something to bridge the 2k glass to whatever 10-12k I'm getting. The 5k pro seems nice, but I think I'll go with the 6k glass instead since I have actually seen micrographs on the result it gives.
Now for the most important stone:
Many people seem (or is it seems) to like the naniwa 12k but its regarded as soft and fast wearing/dishing, its a known quality stone though, known to produce a repeatable, good result.
The shapton glass 10k; the micrographs looks good (polished look) and and the jende pics looks good too. Quite expensive though. I have a feeling it will be good enough for me as a finisher.
Shapton pro 12k/15k; hazy but uniform look, some people say its quite rough. At first I wanted it but now I don't. Nobody seems to really like it.
chosera 10k; leaves a polished finish with some deep scratches somehow, maybe they use a too lax filtered powder for this one? and its quite expensive too. no one seems to like it a finishing stone for razors and there has to be a reason for that.
4-8k norton; looks pretty much like the chosera 10k, polished look but some deep scratches. I guess its possible to shave after this one but most people have a stone after this one.
Coticules; looks like sh1t on the micrographs, but somehow people say its a very smooth shave. How that even is possible is beyond me but i trust them. I have ordered 2 coticules. a 60x115 and a 70x130mm. Need to find out myself.
Suehiro Gokumyo 10k, well I just found out about this one, but from what I have read this might be the one for me. Smooth enough and non dishing, quite expensive (like the chosera 10k), gonna read all teh Gokumyo threads here to try to make up my mind.
right now I'm seriously considering the Gokumyo10k/ss12k/glass 10k, those 3 seems to be the best options for me.
anyone care to comment on those 3? vs eachother maybe? I will be going for a 3 stone system and thats it pretty much.