Thread: Whipped Dog 12k barber hone opinion

Originally Posted by Papabear11

Did any body have a opinion about that Stone.

I for got to mention, it's just for touch up straight and use it like a barber hone

These stones are such a crap shoot. I have owned a few in the past(from woodcraft and the polish ebayer), each one was different. It may be my lack of skill, but i didnt notice much of a difference, if any going from my 8k to this.

Not everyone is going to agree with the following either... If you are looking at cheap finishers, hard to beat paste. Just dont go crazy. I use a combo of a swaty barber hone and paste to maintain my razors, but your mileage may vary

If you dont care about cost, the sky is the limit on finishing hones however.

Originally Posted by Papabear11

I for got to mention, it's just for touch up straight and use it like a barber hone

I would suggest a different hone them - perhaps an actual barber hone. If you ask I'm sure you'll get a few good recommendations. I'm partial to Sways myself.

Originally Posted by Papabear11

I for got to mention, it's just for touch up straight and use it like a barber hone

I went ahead and bought it(12k barber hone Whipped Dog). I test it this morning on my 6/8(touch up) and it went good not perfect but good, my guess is i didnt do enough laps on the Stone. Right after my shave i lap it more and tomorow Will be an other test shave, my guess is tomorow Will be a good shave.

3 questions, 1 - How are you prepping your hone? 2 - Did it come with a slurry stone? and 3 - if it did, are you using it? If not, are you working up slurry with another method, or just honing with water?

I rather enjoy my People's Hone of Indeterminate Grit. So I'm glad yours is working for you.

Everything is wrong with that item other than it being Chinese. It's not 12k. As a natural stone, it has no grit designation. I know I have beaten this point to death but it should not be called 12k when it is not.

Also, it's not a barber's hone and cannot be used like one. They are not the same thing and cannot be used in the same way. A barber's hone is a synthetic hone that is simultaneously aggressive and able to produce a relative fine edge with just a few light strokes in the range of 4 to 6 strokes in total. A Chinese natural hone is going to need a lot more strokes than that in order to accomplish a touch-up.

Competent people should know better and should not propagate confusion.

Originally Posted by Marshal

3 questions, 1 - How are you prepping your hone? 2 - Did it come with a slurry stone? and 3 - if it did, are you using it? If not, are you working up slurry with another method, or just honing with water?

I rather enjoy my People's Hone of Indeterminate Grit. So I'm glad yours is working for you.

I just use Water and lather and no slury stone

Originally Posted by Utopian

Everything is wrong with that item other than it being Chinese. It's not 12k. As a natural stone, it has no grit designation. I know I have beaten this point to death but it should not be called 12k when it is not.

Also, it's not a barber's hone and cannot be used like one. They are not the same thing and cannot be used in the same way. A barber's hone is a synthetic hone that is simultaneously aggressive and able to produce a relative fine edge with just a few light strokes in the range of 4 to 6 strokes in total. A Chinese natural hone is going to need a lot more strokes than that in order to accomplish a touch-up.

Competent people should know better and should not propagate confusion.

I understand your saying but it seen that hone work?? But this is all New for me and i'm open to any suggestions, now that i have few straight and to my opinion(9 straights) i have enough. What i want is just keep a good edge on them. Like i said i'm open to any suggestions but budget wise. Thanks

The Chinese hone is very slow. That is, it cuts steel very slowly. For that reason you have to do a lot of strokes (like 50 to 100) to accomplish much of anything with it. Now if you cut that hone into smaller pieces, you are going to have to do a proportionately greater number of strokes to accomplish the same thing.

You can get the full size hone for about $35 and the 2 inch wide but still full length version for $25.

Originally Posted by Papabear11

I just use Water and lather and no slury stone

I haven't done many touch ups with mine. Depending on how dull your razor is, you might want to look into getting a slurry stone. I think for the Guangxi hones they're fairly cheap, just a dollar or 2 and change. Use it with slurry to speed the process up. The Guangxi hone needs it.

Also - consider polishing your hone a little further than just your lapping grit. Mine is very finely polished, but you can probably do 320 grit (skip if you're already using a 320 grit lapping plate), 600 grit, 1k, and maybe 2k to finish. The more finely polished, especially if used as a water/lather hone, the finer the edge it will produce. If you've lapped both sides, leave one 'rough' - just lapped with your lapping material of choice, and use that as your slurry side. Save the polished side for pure water and lather.

But, I stand by my previous recommendation of an actual vintage barber hone. Keep an eye on Ebay. I found a very nice lot of 3, 2 barber hones and what I can only assume is a safety razor blade refreshing stone, for 30 bucks. Both will put a very nice shaving edge on a razor, and do it much faster than even my full size Guangxi hone.