Thread: Help IDing a hone

That's a beautiful stone by the way..

Thanks for all your help fellas. I ended up opting for the cut and lap option. I tried it as-is and it felt a little awkward....also I've been thinking about a travel hone which this might serve the purpose of down the track.

So here's the result.



I ended up taking just over 10mm (~1/2") off each end. Saw them clear with a standard hacksaw with a standard Bahco blade. Easy work! This left me with two neat little slurry stones and less than 2mm to lap out the dish. A hard 2mm though BTW....so very appreciative of the advice to trim the ends as it gave me less of the harder work to do. Also saved off the slurry, so have about 2L of slurry water which I hope to condense down to a nice slurry paste.

So I ended up with a handy little stone of 150x50mm and two slurry stones for both sides of that stone - as I'm thinking this will be my first combination stone...unless y'all don't agree that it's viable (e.g. BBW)

Now towards identification, here's the slurry on each side.





I'm initially inclined towards a La Dressante au bleu.

The back certainly isn't slate nor glued on. Not sure if it is BBW or Rouge du Salm....as I only have slate to compare it to.

Be keen on your feedback.

....and in a matter of hours we'll see how she hones.

At this point your hone test is all that counts.

Just finished honing a Bengall. Funny how it kind of looks similar to my other coticule - the La Dressante (I believe Top Layer) but this one hones so very differently. This stone feels harder and slower - while my other bout is almost chalky soft yet faster. I tried a combination hone:
a) slurry on the beige,
b) water on the blue,
c) water on the beige.
Under the scope the edge looks finer and cleaner than the other coti. I'll know more when I test shave tomorrow morning, though won't be surprised if this edge is a little less mellow.

Looks good, nice looking coti! I think you might be surprised by the shave, the harder stones generally give better edges, but you need to be sure the top of the stone is well smoothed after flattening with the diamond plate.

Originally Posted by eKretz

Looks good, nice looking coti! I think you might be surprised by the shave, the harder stones generally give better edges, but you need to be sure the top of the stone is well smoothed after flattening with the diamond plate.

Great call!
I just went Atoma 400 to flatten. What would you suggest to smoothen?

Some guys like to use up to 2000 grit wet/dry but for my own coticule I flatten with a 1200 Atoma then make a couple rub stone slurries and rinse them away. I try to avoid lapping unless the stone is getting quite a ways out of flat as well.

Originally Posted by stillshunter

The back certainly isn't slate nor glued on. Not sure if it is BBW or Rouge du Salm....as I only have slate to compare it to.

Thats not easy to be clarified because "La Lorraine" is a special layer between two BBW layers. You can mostly make it out on its coloration because it really shows a wine red color...

Here is a comparison shot, where you can see on the right side a typical blue BBW...on the left is la Lorraine...



Here are three different looking types of La Lorraine:

Originally Posted by eKretz

Some guys like to use up to 2000 grit wet/dry but for my own coticule I flatten with a 1200 Atoma then make a couple rub stone slurries and rinse them away. I try to avoid lapping unless the stone is getting quite a ways out of flat as well.

Thanks mate. Well I went with the Chosera 1k. It did come out smoother that's for certain. Great tip!!!!

Originally Posted by doorsch

Thats not easy to be clarified because "La Lorraine" is a special layer between two BBW layers. You can mostly make it out on its coloration because it really shows a wine red color...

Here is a comparison shot, where you can see on the right side a typical blue BBW...on the left is la Lorraine...



Here are three different looking types of La Lorraine:

@doosch, mate, thanks so much for this. This morning I was deadset it was just BBW, but looking a your shots now I'm not so sure... Here's another photo in daylight...what do you reckon?



BTW: I honed a Hamburg Ring with both sides of this stone this morning through a progression of:
Chosera 1k (bevel set)
BBW w/- slurry
coticule w/- slurry
BBW w/- water
coticule w/- water
Biggest surprise through the scope was the edge after the BBW w/- slurry. Worked a nice thick mud on the stone and at x200 the edge very soft and smooth (almost 'cloudy'). Normal Chosera scratch marks before and normal coti random scratch pattern with the coticule slurry after. Very odd. I wonder of it's nice to shave off. I'm going to give it a go tomorrow morning.

Hey fellas, huge thumbs up for all your input.
Cheers!

Well it looks like a Lorraine, in the end you can only tell if it really is ;-)

you should receive a very polished bevel with that one. You should also get a comfortable shave on par with a standard type Coticule....

You can try a progression with the lorraine Only and see how you come around with that shave...