Thread: Anyone PREFER a Norton 4/8 to a coticule?

Originally Posted by THORandODIN

That's all I use and have plus a 1k Chosera for bevel setting, I can get a razor shave sharp in no time using the 4/8 combo Norton, Soak the 4k for about 5 to 8min. for the first time and a splash of water for the 8k. I have never understood all the hype for Coti's, Thuringian's, ect, ect. What makes these stones so great?. Go get you a 4/8k combo Norton and you will never look back. You might want to get a 12k for a finishing stone if you feel like it, I have one but hardly ever use it.

I do like cotis and arks, they are smooth as all hell when done right. Seriously. But sometimes I get the feeling my cotis aren't as fine as they're hyped up to be. I can get good HHT and the razor is smooth... they're really not that consistent, for me. Tell you one thing, they WILL teach you how to X-stroke a razor.

My last hone session on a Las Petas, I only did X strokes and she took Foreva!

Using a CrOx paddle after a coticule gives great edges (at least for me)

Originally Posted by J743

I do like cotis and arks, they are smooth as all hell when done right. Seriously. But sometimes I get the feeling my cotis aren't as fine as they're hyped up to be. I can get good HHT and the razor is smooth... they're really not that consistent, for me. Tell you one thing, they WILL teach you how to X-stroke a razor.

My last hone session on a Las Petas, I only did X strokes and she took Foreva!

Originally Posted by rodb

Using a CrOx paddle after a coticule gives great edges (at least for me)

Has anyone tried CrOx after a Norton 4/8k? In a vintage barber manual, Kosuke Iwasaki (yes, the maker of Iwasaki razors) claims that CrOx is needed to remove the false edge that's inevitably left behind from honing. I'd be curious if CrOx improves upon any just-honed edge.

Hi Julio. A Norton 8k shave is a very nice shave in my opinion. Much easier to get to shave ready then with a coticule until you've mastered that stone. I agree the magic can wear out so to speak and it's good to have a fall back that you know can't go wrong.

A pasted edge can greatly improve coticule keenness. Remember in my failed coticule edge thread at the CC where I recommended using metal polish on a linen or denim strop. Greatly improved coti edges that aren't quite there.

Scott

Originally Posted by vileru

Has anyone tried CrOx after a Norton 4/8k? In a vintage barber manual, Kosuke Iwasaki (yes, the maker of Iwasaki razors) claims that CrOx is needed to remove the false edge that's inevitably left behind from honing. I'd be curious if CrOx improves upon any just-honed edge.

I do it all the time, after getting a razor that will past my shave test, I put the razor thru about 30 strokes on the CrOx strop, then about 30 on the leather, I can get just about any of my razors "singing" after this.

Last week you were praising the coticule and telling newbs to use them as their first stone. Just admit that you are a honing junkie. lol.
The 4/8 norton is a great stone that you can shave from. Everyone should have one. I think that you won't be happy with that as your finished edge. Get it and try it out. Compare the shaves off the 8k and your coticule. If I am right you will still be looking for a finisher. Then you will buy a Naniwa 12k which you will find a little harsh. Then you will try a Thuringian as a finisher. When you are done you will have a nice pile of rocks a great shaving razor and seeking your next stone. It does not end. Don't ask me how I know. Good luck and have fun.

Originally Posted by Hacker7;1651415[B

]Last week you were praising the coticule and telling newbs to use them as their first stone. Just admit that you are a honing junkie. lol[/B].
The 4/8 norton is a great stone that you can shave from. Everyone should have one. I think that you won't be happy with that as your finished edge. Get it and try it out. Compare the shaves off the 8k and your coticule. If I am right you will still be looking for a finisher. Then you will buy a Naniwa 12k which you will find a little harsh. Then you will try a Thuringian as a finisher. When you are done you will have a nice pile of rocks a great shaving razor and seeking your next stone. It does not end. Don't ask me how I know. Good luck and have fun.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Love the coticule, by inconsistent I'm talking 2/10 I can't hit. That's pretty good in my book. They give tremenduous shaves but if I can get there quicker, well--you're supposed to cosign my addiction, not pull my covers skdjfgbkldjfnbkdjfnbkljdfbkljdfblkdjfblkjdfb

Repeat after me:

"buy the rock. You're going to do it anyway. Why are you asking for permission."

Originally Posted by Hacker7

Last week you were praising the coticule and telling newbs to use them as their first stone. Just admit that you are a honing junkie. lol.
The 4/8 norton is a great stone that you can shave from. Everyone should have one. I think that you won't be happy with that as your finished edge. Get it and try it out. Compare the shaves off the 8k and your coticule. If I am right you will still be looking for a finisher. Then you will buy a Naniwa 12k which you will find a little harsh. Then you will try a Thuringian as a finisher. When you are done you will have a nice pile of rocks a great shaving razor and seeking your next stone. It does not end. Don't ask me how I know. Good luck and have fun.

Wow! That's almost exactly what I did nearly word for word! Started with a 4/8 Norton, CROX pasted leather to finish. Got the Naniwa 12K which I found a little harsh! CROX pasted felt strop to ease the Naniwa 12K, then on to the Thuringian... Last week I got a Coticule... it's like you're telling my story Haha!

Adam

Began with a Norton 4/8. Still with it. I have fondly referred to it as the 'poor man's coticule', however I DO have a Coti and use it on occasion. Whatever I use, I like the predictable nature of the stone in question, JMO.

I have experimented about all I care to, Just me!