Thread: Is the 16K Shapton hone worth the money over the 15K from the Pro line??

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

Bob, if you want to my friend, would you like to try a SG 20? I can have it to you in a week, or however long it takes to cross the border, Open offer to you. Tc

That is a very generous offer and if I lived close enough for a personal handoff I'd gladly take you up on the offer. I am just not comfortable with they way cross border traffic can go wrong sometimes, especially with a valuable and fragile loaner like that. Many thanks though.

Bob

I have spent the last couple of years learning the stones I have at this time. I have bought only vintage razors usually in bad need of honing & many need bevel setting. I use a King 1K to set my bevels with & have had very good luck with that hone. Until I can see that a different 1K is better than my King I will stay with it.
I am hoping I really like the 16K Shapton & if I do I may get some of the lower grit hones from them. As far as a finisher I love my little $3.00 Coti but I want a crisper edge & from what I can find a 16K Shapton is the way I want to go. I think the Shapton stones might be better for stainless blades. Don't have any yet but you never know!LOL
Thanks for all your thought's on this subject. You all are the best!

Dave"Slawman"Huffman

Well looks like I am going with the 15K Pro Shapton. I will let you all know how I like it.

Slawman

Originally Posted by Slawman

Well looks like I am going with the 15K Pro Shapton. I willlet you all know how I like it.

Slawman

I really like mine, hope you like yours as much. I have zero issues or regrets. What stone holder and lapping plate did you go with, or do you already have one? So here's my dilemma, now I want to hone all the time to better my skill. I've bought a few extra razors for that purpose but they all shave great and now I don't want to trash the edge and start over. Straight razor problems I guess, such is life searching for the edge.

Steve

Steve I have a Norton lapping stone at this time & am looking just like you. Funds are kind of limited at this time so I will stick with my just flattened Norton for a while. I also have a flat piece of marble I use with some 500 grit wet-dry sand paper.
Glad you like your 15K hone. If I had the $$ I would have went with the 16K glass. I think the important thing is learning the hone you have. I have a Coti that I have spent a lot of time with & after watching Dr. Matt's videos On Coti's I really like where I have got my edges. I just want to try a new hone at a higher grit & also to have options. As of yet I don't use a stone holder but I am thinking of getting the $16.00 one on Amazon
Once again, Thanks for your post.

Dave Huffman

Originally Posted by Slawman

I have spent the last couple of years learning the stones I have at this time. I have bought only vintage razors usually in bad need of honing & many need bevel setting. I use a King 1K to set my bevels with & have had very good luck with that hone. Until I can see that a different 1K is better than my King I will stay with it.
I am hoping I really like the 16K Shapton & if I do I may get some of the lower grit hones from them. As far as a finisher I love my little $3.00 Coti but I want a crisper edge & from what I can find a 16K Shapton is the way I want to go. I think the Shapton stones might be better for stainless blades. Don't have any yet but you never know!LOL
Thanks for all your thought's on this subject. You all are the best!
Dave"Slawman"Huffman

I have a 1K King and an 800 King, both sit unused as I have moved to the Naniwa 1K Professional.... it's night and day.

Shapton 15K or 16K makes no never mind, either is fine. You WILL notice it is significantly faster. I have one razor that must have really hard steel.... it's a bugger to hone, but my Shapton 16K whips it into shape in 20 laps....

As for the lower grits in Shapton, I had the 1K, 2K, 4K, 8K and 16K. It was the 1K that convinced me to try out Naniwa... I found the Shapton "gritty" to hone on.... only without the expected speed increase based on the sound/feel. The Naniwa is fast and smooth.... add the brown turd slurry and it's even faster. I would much rather do all my honing on the Naniwa than with a DMT 325 and the Shapton 1K..... it's faster and the end result is smoother.

Now, I consider the 4K and up Shaptons to be great.... Except I felt the Naniwa SS hones feel a little better to me. I'm spoiled now, thanks to Danny who liked my Shaptons, but did NOT like the 16K, so I have both the Shapton 16K AND the Naniwa 12K. Both work great, the Shapton being much harder and yet I find some razors respond better to it than the Naniwa. You just have to learn the ins and outs of any one hone.... Once you do, you'll be happy with it.

If you are looking for crisp, smooth edge... the Shapton will not disappoint. In fact, you might find you want to tone it down a wee bit with a Natural, after your done (which is exactly what I do with a Jnat, Coticule, Zulu or Escher).

Regards

Kaptain "Spoiled for choice" Zero

Originally Posted by Slawman

Well looks like I am going with the 15K Pro Shapton. I will let you all know how I like it.

Slawman

The 15k/12k Pro is not ideal for sensitive skins but I could live with it if I didn't have all my other stones.
It's one stone I would use CrO after for a few strokes.

Family came thru with gift cards for my birthday & I was able to get the 16,000 grit glass hone. Should be here in a week. Can't wait!

Slawman

Originally Posted by onimaru55

The 15k/12k Pro is not ideal for sensitive skins but I could live with it if I didn't have all my other stones.

That was my take on the Pro also. Certainly usable, but a bit of a surgical feel. I tamed that edge with three laps on a natural.

The Shapton 16K hone was in the morning mail. It was in perfect condition, no cracks or other problems. Getting ready to lap it & take it for a test drive. It seemed pretty flat but took it for a few laps on my just flattened Norton lapping stone.
Pretty good service. Ordered it on the 7th & it got here on the 13th.
The seller was Yanagi Knife in Brooklyn N.Y.