Thread: What is a Schwedenstein?

I was hoping for a better definition on what a Schwedenstein hone is? Is it just a Thuringian hone with colors and patterns in it or is it an entirely different Stone?

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All the info on this link: http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ein-hones.html

Nothing more to add ;-)

I do have one question that I don't feel was answered. Can any modelled or cloudy thuringian be considered a Schwedenstein or do they have to have specific properties ( hardness, pattern, etc...)?

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Originally Posted by aaron1234

I do have one question that I don't feel was answered. Can any modelled or cloudy thuringian be considered a Schwedenstein or do they have to have specific properties ( hardness, pattern, etc...)?

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No i would say, they show a specific pattern. Also the coloration is very distinctive, its either a type of olive green/brown mottling or a mottling with all kinds of colors...

They appear with red, green, orange, brown, olive and other colors but those colors are very type of earthy, so those are no high contrast colorations.

They are aa bit coarser and definetly a more agresive cuting stone than the thuries . Still exelent finishers Similar stones - maybe cousins hah aha ah]

Originally Posted by aaron1234

I do have one question that I don't feel was answered. Can any modelled or cloudy thuringian be considered a Schwedenstein or do they have to have specific properties ( hardness, pattern, etc...)?

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As pointed out in the thread mentioned above, the Schwedenstein hones are completely different rocks coming from another rock age, build millions of years before the well know thuringian waterhones - like the escher labelled ones.
So what we call mottled thuringians are thuringian waterhones (i.e. Escher hones) coming all from one quarry in a town in Thuringia. The motteling is a change in color of the stones where the different layers turn into each other.

On the other hand, the Schwedenstein hones can also be of a unique color, like green or black. The best and finest layers of these stones however have this specific mottling.
The following pictures shows Schwedenstein hones from the same quarry, all found in a radius of 1m, but different layers.



The green layers are not as fine as the mottled ones, but faster.

Thank you all for the help it definitely makes more sense now. I currently have two stones that I think are Schwedenstein.
They both look and act completely different which is what caught my attention and stirred up the question.

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The rectangular one - sure looks like a typical Schwedenstein. The other one I don't think so. Stones like this with that rounded back are typically found in rivers. These are not "mined" hones. In the thuringian mountains near the Schwedenstein quarries there are no rivers. Although the mottling is very much different to the Schwedensteins.
From the shape - I got two Charnley Forest hones that are quite the same. The mottling is not really typical for Charnley but not impossible. Maybe a Lyn Idwall hone?