Progressing from 3k

It is my birthday on Thursday and I am going to be getting a naniwa pro 1k, 3k and DMT 325.

This will kick things up a notch for me at the bottom end and make a really consistent edge to work with.

would 3k be an acceptable jump to a translucent Arkansas and a lot of laps or should I progress higher?

I don't have to Nani 5k pro. It could always be had in the future.

I want to jump from the lowest possible grit without it taking hours upon hours. I don't mind using pressure to speed things up on the Arkansas.

Thoughts, comments, concerns?

What I've learned from SRP, and other sites and videos, is take your initial honing out to 8k then commence on to your finishers. Naturals or otherwise.

BTW, loading in Houston now. Headed to Port Hope, ON for Thursday delivery.

That’s a good question, a big jump. Problem is a 3-4k will refine a bevel, considerably, but the edge is not straight.

I have never done that, so could not say.

So, you will have to remove a fair amount of steel, to straighten the edge. A hard ark or 8k would do it quickly…

If you used soap on your ark and did circles and or half laps with pressure, maybe. Then switch to Smiths or Ballistol and light pressure.

It will be interesting.

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Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

would 3k be an acceptable jump to a translucent Arkansas and a lot of laps or should I progress higher?

I don't have to Nani 5k pro. It could always be had in the future.

I want to jump from the lowest possible grit without it taking hours upon hours. I don't mind using pressure to speed things up on the Arkansas.

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If you don't want it to take hours, then I would suggest progressing higher. If you only wish to consider adding one more hone, you might want to consider skipping the 5k and instead get an 8k. I'm normally a fan of the smallest possible jumps but I'm going off of the parameters you have provided. I think the 3k to 8k to Ark is a lot more doable than the 3k to Ark jump.

There is no Pro 8k but there are other good options, including the Naniwa Specialty 8k.

It depends on how you want to go about it really.

I've done 1K to Translucent w/ Coticule slurry dilutions to polish away all the 1K stria. I've also used my Dragon's Tongue rubbing stone to create a slurry on the Translucent for the same purpose. You can also do 1K > 3K > Coticule > Translucent. And of course from the 3K I imagine you could bounce over to your Hard Ark, then up to the Translucent.

Many ways to skin a cat, just a matter of deciding which way suits you best.

Thanks guys for all the advice. I want to make it easier on myself. Problem is I haven't been able to stick with synthetics for any long period of time. I am not going to give up on them this time. Will look for an 8k. Maybe the Snow White?

how about when you buy it get the 3/8 combo, then your only buying one stone still ? Tc

I would recommend getting the 5k instead of the 3k. It's not a big jump from 1k and it will put you on the next stone with a cleaner edge.

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Originally Posted by tcrideshd

how about when you buy it get the 3/8 combo, then your only buying one stone still ? Tc

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BOOM! There you go...:beer1:

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Originally Posted by BeJay

I would recommend getting the 5k instead of the 3k. It's not a big jump from 1k and it will put you on the next stone with a cleaner edge.

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Yes that

I go 1-5-10 - Finisher nearly everyday

The 1k - 5k jump on the Pro/Chosera is easy and I would feel comfortable going 1-5 - Finisher on a Personal razor, one that I could adjust the next day if needed..

Tc also has a good idea 1k Pro to the 3/8 SS to the finisher that would be a good setup

Crap,

I already know I'm getting the 3k pro... so then 3/8k combo is out TC.

Any additions to it now other then 8k?

Add the 5k and do baby steps?

I wouldn't waste that money myself, I can see no real advantage to owning the 3 & 5 Pro unless you are an OCD idiot like me and just want one hehehehe

Yeah maybe the 8k Snow white

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

unless you are an OCD idiot like me and just want one hehehehe

Yeah maybe the 8k Snow white

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That sums it up well :) . I could also get the naniwa Fuji 8k for a very good price off of eBay. I've heard good things about this hone.

Also I saw the naniwa traditional line now has a 6 and 8k.

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Originally Posted by Utopian

If you don't want it to take hours, then I would suggest progressing higher. If you only wish to consider adding one more hone, you might want to consider skipping the 5k and instead get an 8k. I'm normally a fan of the smallest possible jumps but I'm going off of the parameters you have provided. I think the 3k to 8k to Ark is a lot more doable than the 3k to Ark jump.

There is no Pro 8k but there are other good options, including the Naniwa Specialty 8k.

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Parameters taken away. What would you suggest?

I haven't tried the Traditionals myself

Lynn told me I really need to look at them :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

I haven't tried the Traditionals myself

Lynn told me I really need to look at them :hmmm:

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They do look good and are priced modestly. I have not read any reviews though.

I use the Naniwa Traditional 1K a lot. It feels like an old water stone but behaves like the rest of my Naniwas. Not as soft as the Selective and not quite as hard feeling as the Professional although close. Very consistent and reliable bevel setter in my experience over the last couple years.

I do have a king 4 (I believe 6) k and 8k I was planning on selling. Maybe hold onto them and work them into a progression?

I was gonna ask what happened to your King stones. I'd at least hang onto those until you had a replacement 8K in hand, if you're gonna switch completely to Naniwas.

I would say use that 8k until you get a replacement. I go 1-3-8 and the jump seems to be fine from there to finishers.

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

I wouldn't waste that money myself, I can see no real advantage to owning the 3 & 5 Pro unless you are an OCD idiot like me and just want one hehehehe

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You forgot the 2k.

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Originally Posted by Utopian

You forgot the 2k.

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I wanted that over the 1k but my better judgement stopped that.

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Originally Posted by Utopian

You forgot the 2k.

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He is just being mean hehehe

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

He is just being mean hehehe

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Yup .

So after asking a few guys through pm about the differences between the new super stone and the pro's and which one was reccomended.

All good advice was given and I am thankful for it.

Ended up buying the 5k and 10k pro stones. Cost a lot of money but hopefully will be the last Stones I buy.

Now if Glen or someone else with these stones would make a video tutorial with these stones for the synthetically challenged.

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Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

So after asking a few guys through pm about the differences between the new super stone and the pro's and which one was reccomended.

All good advice was given and I am thankful for it.

Ended up buying the 5k and 10k pro stones. Cost a lot of money but hopefully will be the last Stones I buy.

Now if Glen or someone else with these stones would make a video tutorial with these stones for the synthetically challenged.

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No need for a stone specific video. You can watch videos for pretty much any synthetic stones for technique. They're actually pretty straight forward. Set the bevel, remove 1k scratches on 5k, remove 5k scratches on 8k and on to a finisher(or not).

Get a good bevel set and progressively polish the edge. Use a loupe to watch your progress on each stone. I don't do any testing after the 1k, it's all visual. Move to the next stone as soo as all the previous stones scratches are removed.

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Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

Now if Glen or someone else with these stones would make a video tutorial with these stones for the synthetically challenged.

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He already has made the videos especially for your b-day. ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p2E9sovmb0Y