Thread: Shapton 16k, mixed grit??

I actually got a response from Shapton.

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Thank you for your inquiry.

First of all, particle sizes of abrasive are not perfectly even. The abrasive of GS16000 has wider distribution of particle size relatively. Of course, its center particle size is smaller than the one of GS10000. However, because of such feature of the abrasive of GS16000, we don’t recommend to use GS16000 after GS10000 and GS8000. The strong point of GS16000 is that you can jump to it from lower grit stone. For example, our 50408/3pcs Set is composed with GS500, GS2000, and GS16000.

We are sorry for such confusion and complexity. Your judgment was right. GS16000 is not appropriate to use after GS10000. Instead, you can use GS16000 just after GS3000. In addition, it seems that you should to add one more between GS3000 and GS10000, such as, GS6000. Furthermore, when using GS16000, you will be able to get better result by 1) short stroke and 2) loose hand-pressure.

Hope this information will help you.

Thank you for choosing SHAPTON.



Best regards,



SHAPTON Co., Ltd.

For fun, I once set the bevel and finished the edge with my 16k.
As I remember, it shaved fine.

Originally Posted by rolodave

For fun, I once set the bevel and finished the edge with my 16k.
As I remember, it shaved fine.

Dang, I get impatient setting bevels on a 1k.

If anyone is interested, Maggard has the 30k Glass Stone on sale for $306 and the code ‘11Spring’ will get you another 11% off through Friday. That puts it a couple of bucks below $275 which is about as good a deal as you’ll get on these.

Originally Posted by Steve56

If anyone is interested, Maggard has the 30k Glass Stone on sale for $306 and the code ‘11Spring’ will get you another 11% off through Friday. That puts it a couple of bucks below $275 which is about as good a deal as you’ll get on these.

Just so you know, 30k isn't very good for razors. I sold mine after passing it around to a few veteran honers.

Originally Posted by ScottGoodman

Just so you know, 30k isn't very good for razors. I sold mine after passing it around to a few veteran honers.

What didn’t you like about it Scott? I know Glen uses one occasionally.

Originally Posted by Steve56

What didn’t you like about it Scott? I know Glen uses one occasionally.

I was having edge failure on most razors. I sent it to several others and they had the same rests. Glen later deeply dove into it an found that only the hardest and strongest of razors could handle the edge. These (typically New York) razors could only handle 2-3 featherlight x strokes.

If you are going to spend that kind of money, I recommend a G20. That is the most versatile synthetic finisher that I have laid my hands on. If a new honer were to ask me if they should go with an Escher or G20, I would recommend a G20 simply because every G20 you sit down with will behave the same...not so with naturals.