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    So, as is my mentally unbalanced nature, I am getting the urge to spend more money that I dont actually have.

    I have a very sparse set of Jnats. an Asagi, a hard white nagura (not sure what kind) that came with it, a Tsuchima nagura. I get great shaves with it, but just not all that much better than from my Nani12k. It gets a bit "skippy" which is more of an annoyance than anything, but you know how that can get on your nerves if your having a bad day.

    So I am curious as to what hone would be the best Final Finish Only stone. As in, which of the various colors/strata would be most likely to have the finest grit?

    I dont mind a painfully slow stone if it is going to bring me a feeling of "it dont get better than this"

    Do any of the softer stones slurry down to the status of "super fine" or do Jnats fall more into the "The Harder the Finer" category and need to be all shining like an Arkansas stone?

    I'm just not digging on the "rub this course stone on this finer stone" thing. I would just as soon have 4 or 5 blocks of stupid expensive single purpose stones.
    You know, because. I have no common sense or self control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
    So, as is my mentally unbalanced nature, I am getting the urge to spend more money that I dont actually have.

    I have a very sparse set of Jnats. an Asagi, a hard white nagura (not sure what kind) that came with it, a Tsuchima nagura. I get great shaves with it, but just not all that much better than from my Nani12k. It gets a bit "skippy" which is more of an annoyance than anything, but you know how that can get on your nerves if your having a bad day.

    So I am curious as to what hone would be the best Final Finish Only stone. As in, which of the various colors/strata would be most likely to have the finest grit?

    I dont mind a painfully slow stone if it is going to bring me a feeling of "it dont get better than this"

    Do any of the softer stones slurry down to the status of "super fine" or do Jnats fall more into the "The Harder the Finer" category and need to be all shining like an Arkansas stone?

    I'm just not digging on the "rub this course stone on this finer stone" thing. I would just as soon have 4 or 5 blocks of stupid expensive single purpose stones.
    You know, because. I have no common sense or self control.
    Depends on your price limit.
    The most affordable yet dense layer is Namito. Asagi & Kiita colours will be neighbours there.
    Travelling higher up towards Aisa & Tomae, ie less dense should be cheaper & deeper down towards Hon Suita will be more expensive.
    Of course all those layers can have anomalous densities from stone to stone which is why we always recommend you pick a seller you have faith in & ask them to help you pick.

    Razor stones are generally in the hard category to keep the bevels flat. It's not so much about the fineness.

    You wouldn't need 4 or 5 expensive stones. A pre polisher & Polisher would be enough.
    You could possibly jump from a Tsushima to the pre polisher etc.
    Only thing is setting bevels on a natural is much slower than synthetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post

    Razor stones are generally in the hard category to keep the bevels flat. It's not so much about the fineness.

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    I would have thought that if it were for final polishing only, there would be so little pressure in use, that keeping things flat would not be an issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
    I would have thought that if it were for final polishing only, there would be so little pressure in use, that keeping things flat would not be an issue
    Yes & no. Soft stones release grit more readily & are rarely as fine as a good hard razor stone, tho some expensive ones come so close there can be overlap. The tendency is to slightly less sharp due to dare I say it "slurry dulling". The edge gets slightly convexed. It's not like you need to lap the stone like a 1k King setting a bevel on a wedge

    A final edge can be a very personal thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    Yes & no. Soft stones release grit more readily & are rarely as fine as a good hard razor stone, tho some expensive ones come so close there can be overlap. The tendency is to slightly less sharp due to dare I say it "slurry dulling". The edge gets slightly convexed. It's not like you need to lap the stone like a 1k King setting a bevel on a wedge

    A final edge can be a very personal thing.
    Oh by all means, Dare Say It! This is a very real thing that most people dont get. It drove me insane why my edges were not any good when I first started trying to hone with a Coti. a little slurry goes a very long way!
    But when I say "soft stone" when using the number system that people seem to like with the Jnats, I was thinking 4-4.5 instead of the 5 or 5+
    I also dont get that number system. why not just go 1-10 instead of adding "plus" or half marks.

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    Because then we'd be looking at 1-10(+), and instead of looking at a stone that's 4 or 4.5, you'd be looking at a range including 8, 8.5, and 9. The half marks and pluses wouldn't go anywhere.

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    Also, if the scale went to 10, then I regularly would be saying that mine go to eleven!

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