Thread: Escher

Originally Posted by JOB15

I'm now of the opinion that it is one of those Mueller hones, in a genuine Escher box.
Hence the same specs as an Escher apart from the sparkles.
It seems to perform or is that just my wondrous synthetic skills?
Anyone got any thoughts on this stone:

EBay number 272618405317
Cheers guys.

getting a little bit of a laugh here as this auction is from the very same person that Jimmy mentions a few pages back as a seller of Escher stones. Did you not notice that? =P

As an aside, i had a Mueller at one point, and it had some pyrite inclusions in it. i picked out the pyrite, and was able to get edges not so far from my vintage stones. (but not QUIET as good) I think the average honer would not notice. But the average honer probably wouldnt be picking pyrite out of a hone either.

Originally Posted by Magpie

As an aside, i had a Mueller at one point, and it had some pyrite inclusions in it. i picked out the pyrite, and was able to get edges not so far from my vintage stones. (but not QUIET as good) I think the average honer would not notice. But the average honer probably wouldnt be picking pyrite out of a hone either.

Years ago Tony Miller, the strop maker in the USA, used to sell Eschers, coticules, and Thuringans. He sold Muellers for awhile but quit because of the inclusions that were not infrequently in the stones he received.

There was a member on SRP years ago named Russell Baldridge. He did a review, back when SRP had a review section, on the Mueller and his was a really good stone. At that time I bought one (no inclusions) and duplicated his results. I sold it because I had better stones, but it was a decent hone. So if you get one without inclusions it may be worthwhile. As Magpie pointed out above, not as good as a bona fide Escher, but not bad either.

I have purchased this one from a knowledgeable seller :
No labels or box. Hopefully no sparkles ..
8inch x 4cm.
Not sure on the colour..





write up ;This is a very old green color Thuringian straight razor water hone. The stone is in very good condition, the face is flat. The edges are nearly perfect, one or two very tiny chips, please see fotos. There is no darker color close to the base of the stone, pure green color hone. This hone is a finishing stone, with a very fine grid, the slurry comes fast. There is no label or sign of a label any more. Around the sides are straight diagonal saw marks, please see fotos. The size of the hone is 20.3 cm x 4 cm x 2 cm+ or 8" x 1 9/16" x 3/4" and the weight is 463g. The first and the two last fotos showing the hone wet or with slurry. This is a very good collectable or ready for use. Thank you for looking

Originally Posted by IndependenceRazor1

Burnishing is caused by using the stone - i.e. by the razor on the stone.
Using a conditioning stone - or a slurry stone - or a nagura - should remove the burnishing.

I lapped both sides and those shiny buggers are still there, They are tiny

I think they may account for the hefty scratch marks I saw under the microscope..

Last time I gave my blade 150 laps and that turned out to be way to much. I got half way through the second pass and the edge started to deteriorate .

This time I aced the Shapton progression up to 16k and then gave 30 laps on the fake Escher.
The edge seems amazing . I will shave off it this weekend and depending on that result I will most probably pack that stone away and try to forget about it.

Originally Posted by JOB15

I lapped both sides and those shiny buggers are still there, They are tiny

I think they may account for the hefty scratch marks I saw under the microscope..

Last time I gave my blade 150 laps and that turned out to be way to much. I got half way through the second pass and the edge started to deteriorate .

This time I aced the Shapton progression up to 16k and then gave 30 laps on the fake Escher.
The edge seems amazing . I will shave off it this weekend and depending on that result I will most probably pack that stone away and try to forget about it.

I'm sure you have some knowledgeable stone guys within driving distance of you, why not take it to a meet up, or contact another local fellow, and get another opinion on it instead of resigning it to the drawer?

Originally Posted by Magpie

I'm sure you have some knowledgeable stone guys within driving distance of you, why not take it to a meet up, or contact another local fellow, and get another opinion on it instead of resigning it to the drawer?

We don't have meet ups in the UK, there is only 3 of us haha.
From what I've learnt and read (after the purchase) I'm quite confident in what it is.
Not a bad stone, not worth the £140 I paid though.
If it didn't come and fit in that genuine box I never would have bought it..
On the bright side,I now have something to compare all other Eschers against.
Cheers..
Joseph.

Apparently the newly ordered stone is green.
I hear a lot about yellow/green and blues but not green.

Yellow green is the best but some prefer to use blue, is what I hear a lot of

Originally Posted by JOB15

Apparently the newly ordered stone is green.
I hear a lot about yellow/green and blues but not green.

Yellow green is the best but some prefer to use blue, is what I hear a lot of

I have a dark blue , a labeled Blue, and a labeled Green. I am not overly found of the dark blue. it just doesnt "feel" as nice. the blue and green are both good, similar finishes, but the green has more feedback to my fingertips so I enjoy it more. my face cant really feel the difference. If I ever make it back across the pond, I'd be happy to join you for a grease riddled breakfast and a honing session.

Yeh sure but I don't do grease,, I wanna live long time .

Who makes these colors up. They are grey or blue to my eyes.

When I started about 5 years ago I lived in the UK. If I make it back, I'll be bringing my dark blue Escher and maybe we can arrange a meet up. I had no idea there were so few of "us" in the UK! [emoji27]