You are entirely right Tom. You do not call me the seller. But I am the seller :-) and since I have nothing to hide from you or the other members it is normal that I intervene not because I am the seller but well because I am a lover of stones too. I just wanted to understand why the fact that the stone is with a 3m grip is a problem ... any stone taken off is not false ?! I know for a fact that it is a true Thuringian. I know the stones to get +/- 500. Now it is "just" a pity that you are not happy ... My pleasure is to make people happy with their purchases ... I will however do my analysis on this stone. Know that I do not blame you I just do not like the way you proceed by blocking me the whole payment. I prefer that have remained friend