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    I found the same stuff on glanrafon but it is a quarry not a stone type. Obviously they also had Charnley Forest stones. I can't find others that look like this. So not really sure if it is a stone from that quarry or the Fiddish River stone a coticule or something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideon66 View Post
    So I accidentally bought this stone on the bay. Not sure what it is. Very hard and puts a nice edge on a knife with slurry. Didnít look or feel like oil was used, but the box and stone have a slight smell. So I will do a simple green soak. It cleaned up well and has su and greenish grey brown slurry.
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    Perhaps the place to start is with some norton water based honing solution and see how it hones.

    Any steel previously polished on a known modern hone will let you see the scratches.
    Perhaps polished with a Naniwa 8K Snow White for example (any 8K will do).

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticcrusader View Post
    It could also be another Welsh stone a llyn idwal hone?

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...H-wKBo#imgrc=_
    I was under the impression the llyn idwal were more like a Charnley Forest stone and this doesn't seem quite like that more like a hard coti/thuri feel to it.
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    So both Peter and Sebastian have given me the info I was looking for and I believe this is a Fiddish River Stone. Seems there is no real documentation of these just a made up term for this stone at sometime. It should be a fine finisher though and that is the end game here and who knows with the lost history of a greenish stone with green slurry for cutlers.
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    So the Charley Forest stone from the glanrafon quarry is starting to bother my mind. So how does one come from Wales. I think this may have been a llyn idwal, but I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideon66 View Post
    The more I mess with this stone the more it seems like a coticule in feel, slurry and looks. Everything I find about the glanrafon tells me it was just a quarry not a stone type. The one previously seen with the label from the bay was not a good label to tell anything. I found a fully intact labeled one and it is a Charnley Forest stone.

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    Interesting, does remind me a bit like the Franconian Stones, just from the Cut the Stone Shows.
    Would be cool to compare a labelled one to a Bavarian Frankonian Stone.....

    @Hatzicho: did you see the cut of that example Peter ? I dont trust the those vintage "warranted genuine wordings".....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideon66 View Post
    So both Peter and Sebastian have given me the info I was looking for and I believe this is a Fiddish River Stone. Seems there is no real documentation of these just a made up term for this stone at sometime. It should be a fine finisher though and that is the end game here and who knows with the lost history of a greenish stone with green slurry for cutlers.
    Here is the one i own, those are real beauties, Fiddish River is only the term it is known as. Till today there is no proof...





    Haha ist a greeneeeee, always thought "Cutlers Green" would sound great for such a Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by doorsch View Post
    Here is the one i own, those are real beauties, Fiddish River is only the term it is known as. Till today there is no proof...





    Haha ist a greeneeeee, always thought "Cutlers Green" would sound great for such a Stone
    Beautiful stone.
    That is what my slurry looks like. It is a joy to hone on and the shaves are just superb. Sometimes accidental purchases are great and fun learning too. Here is some info I found about the Fiddich River Stone.


    I did find a reference to hones or whetstones are obtained near Balvenie, on the Fiddich. 1868 Abbas Combe to Eyworth. & a reference to the same stating it had sufficient supply for the whole of ifland . 1803 The Gazetteer of Scotland Also in a later reference it states laminated marble found in the bed of the Fiddich, is formed into whetstones and hones.1901

    I recently saw what was listed as a llyn idwal that sold as a bin I was going to buy but just before I could it sold that I was wondering if it was a Frankonian stone. Heavily spotted and looked similar to me.

    Also found it interesting that the labeled said Charley Forest stone not Charnley.
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    I picked this Fiddich River up some months ago. Said to have been purchased many years ago from a barber during a trip to England. It was mounted in wood and had a broken corner. Very friendly edges but not the keenest, it's been a joy to use and shave off of.


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    Very friendly edges but not the keenest, it's been a joy to use and shave off of.

    How are you using the stone? What grit are you pre-finishing to.

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