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    The Shapton 30k works best using the full Shapton progression on only a very few types of razors

    It isn't worth it



    That being said

    You take a NY Little Valley made Golden Age SR and go full Shapton on that edge it will flat smoke just about any edge you have ever used

    Yes Really it will
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    Yea, I have the 30K and it's the only Shapton I have.

    It's never done anything for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    That being said

    You take a NY Little Valley made Golden Age SR and go full Shapton on that edge it will flat smoke just about any edge you have ever used

    Yes Really it will
    Are you saying there are certain steels on which the Shaptons excel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DZEC View Post
    Are you saying there are certain steels on which the Shaptons excel?
    Yes

    But more like the other way around, there are few types of steel that can hold that edge
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    The Shapton 30k works best using the full Shapton progression on only a very few types of razors

    It isn't worth it



    That being said

    You take a NY Little Valley made Golden Age SR and go full Shapton on that edge it will flat smoke just about any edge you have ever used

    Yes Really it will
    Hard, NY made steels.. "If its a pain to hone, its an edge worth the pain"

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    Im far from some of you when it comes to honing, but wouldnt that be more the grit and not the stone? My Gok20k acts the same way. Still learning what can take it.
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    The best synthetic edges I've had have come from the 30k
    I would recommend it if asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    The best synthetic edges I've had have come from the 30k
    I would recommend it if asked.
    OK, now I am really confused.

    Is this true only if the 30K comes at the end of a full Shapton progression?
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    It can get complicated. Aside from using a Shapton suite you need an edge that is already in primo condition of keaness and the right quality of steel that can benefit from it. Of course you need the right way to finesse the hone itself also.
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    Try a lot more laps, coticule -> slate -> 30k are big jumps. In my experience and from what I've read you can't overhone if you're using light pressure so go nuts even, just to be sure, like 50+ laps. If you do that experiment try shaving off of the slate-with-way-extra-laps first just to see how you like it. It'll probably be different than your usual which sounds like you were making a sweet hybrid of the coticule and slate edges. Then do a whole bunch on the 30k, since that's also a big jump and it's a smaller hone. You might consider using some magnification to inspect the edge, keep honing until it's a mirror as you shouldn't be able to see a 30k scratch pattern on less than a microscope and probably not even then unless it's a quite good one.

    Pumas have good steel, I'd be surprised if it couldn't hold the edge. And even if it can't, wouldn't that start out sharp initially and then degrade during the shave? Seems to be the way it went when I've had retention issues.

    Also, good price, I'm in Canada too, where is the 30k 7 $80?
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