Thread: Japanese KING water stone

King Water Stone-Japanese
1000 grit
4000 grit
8000 grit
Is good water stone????

I have used King stones numerous times, and found them to be of good quality. Their reputation is that they cut more slowly than a comparable Norton, but that can be a good thing for us newbies. They can also be used with a so-called nagura stone, which is a piece of soft, mildly abrasive mineral that is rubbed back and forth gently on the wet hone until a "slurry" is produced, that is, a cloudy mixture of water and the grit from the nagura; use of this slurry is held to speed up the cutting process. But as with any hone, make sure its surface is quite flat before proceeding to do any honing. You can use a machinist's straightedge to check, or draw a rectilinear grid in pencil on the surface of the hone, and, using either a "lapping" hone or perhaps 220 grit wet/dry sandpaper on a 1/4 or 3/8 inch thick piece of flat glass, lap the surface of the hone to make sure it's flat. In this case, lapping would mean to hold the hone against the wet sandpaper and move it evenly back and forth and in circles, occasionally switching the hone end-for-end, until the grid you drew has uniformly disappeared.

-denis

Originally Posted by Alexandre Kerger

King Water Stone-Japanese... Is good water stone????

Maybe this review will help you.

Viktor

I have a 1200 and 6k King. Both these stones where under $25 each and served me well till I got my 4k/8k Norton. One thing I'll add is that my 6k King does NOT like stainless steel, it will glaze over no matter how much water is running over it.

I've used the 1200 King a few times on my razors that had a really bad edge from Ebite, one even went as far as the 320 DMT to fix it up... Love that tape

When starting to learn sharpening and honeing, I don't think you can go wrong with King stones.

i use a king 1000 to establish a bevel, i just like the way it cuts slow and even.

I like my Kings but they are a little soft. I bought them for knife honing, so I notice the wear a little more than you would with razor sharpening. Its hard to go past them for value though; they are a good stone at a great price.

Hello! I have been trying to get some info about this waterstone manufacturer: King / Ice Bear brand. But with no luck, so i would be very grateful if You could help me out and send me their email or link to their site which i just could not google out. TNX!

I use a King 1k to set my bevels. I bought the 220/1k cause it was cheaper than the 1k, and I've been using it for... maybe a year or so? She's a pretty good stone, though a bit slow as mentioned above.

I think I read somewhere on here that King and Norton use different grit rating/measuring systems and that the King 1k is like a Norton 4k as far as grit goes. I don't know if this is accurate, but it wouldn't really surprise me.

Honestly, if I could go back and do it again... I'm not sure what I would buy. The King may be a bit slow, but I think she gives a finer edge than a Norton 1k, so I don't need as many hones in my progression. For a cheap setup, King 1k, Dragon's Tongue, and a "C12k" should do the trick. (Though you will need something to lap them with)

Hi Fed, I am not sure if I could be of help,
but I remember something about King/Ice Bear

first I am not sure if King and Ice Bear are related to each other.
I have read it somewehere in the past but I am not sure.
Second Ice-Bear produced some very popular hones like an Ice-Bear 10k.
This stone has been used alot but vanished very quickly.
After a few days the Ice-Bear 10k reapperad in sales under the Name of
Kitayama 12k (sometimes 8k)
Rumors have been it is at least 10k,
but I believe it is just a very nice 8k hone.
I think that´s the explaination for the rumors:
It has been told that natural japanese Waterstones sharpening particles crumble down during the sharpening process.
I have no verification for this. But it could be possible.
The Kitayama 8k is made of powdered natural japenese hones.
It´s the first synthetic hone made out of japanese naturals.
That´s what gives him a superb feeling.
The company under wich the Kitayama is sold now is callde Miyakoshi, I believe. They have a pretty wide range of stones, like the little brother of the Kitayma the Arashiyama 6000

reviews about the kitayama 8k

http://straightrazorpalace.com/hone-...2000-grit.html

Kitayama 8K water stone - Badger & Blade

Kitayama 8000(12000) Grit Synthetic Whetstone Review

But if you are not interested in the Kitayama 8k
and you wanted to know something about King-stones themeselfes,
well they are ok. They go cheap here in europe,
for around 20 to 30€ each

Japanische Wassersteine: King und Sun Tiger