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    Quote Originally Posted by TMILO View Post
    Congratulations, HHT has a way for everyone, as long as enjoying the shaving process is the point.
    I am just wondering why with all that testing you are only getting a 3~4 maybe it is because you are rubbing your edge on paper
    I don't use paper on mine and they are way higher
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    I am just wondering why with all that testing you are only getting a 3~4 maybe it is because you are rubbing your edge on paper
    I don't use paper on mine and they are way higher
    Toilet paper is just an added test by myself, so that I don't have too sharp edges, because HHT can't make me find a way to be comfortable with my skin, I know everyone has a way, and I use what I know to find myself enjoying the shaving process, Everyone's way is to enjoy the process for themselves, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMILO View Post
    Toilet paper is just an added test by myself, so that I don't have too sharp edges, because HHT can't make me find a way to be comfortable with my skin, I know everyone has a way, and I use what I know to find myself enjoying the shaving process, Everyone's way is to enjoy the process for themselves, thank you.
    Pretty soon you are going to come to a point with your honing where you are going to realize that many of these tests are just not needed
    That cutting things with the edge is a bad idea
    That putting numbers on the HHT was a dumb mistake that Bart made
    That there is actually no such thing as "Too Sharp" it simply means you created a harsh edge


    Trust me here The more you hone the better you get, the more you hone the more you realize that Stropping is King..

    A couple of us are kinda busting your chops, but honestly we are just helping you move forward faster, you don't have to listen but within time you are going to say "Damn those guys were right"

    Or not

    Hone On !!!
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    This place is full of experienced and benevolent members. You were criticised because we wanted to help you, not to make you feel bad. Looking at the pictures and video again I suspect that you roll the edge when stropping by the combination of pressure and slack. My suspicion is that you created a rolled edge, AKA a wire edge that manages to catch the hair and cut it. However the edge is not sharp enough to cut a piece of toilet paper.
    Most members here would not be satisfied with such an edge, would want a sharper edge. However we have had members before breadknifing the edge to slightly dull the edge and get a better shave.
    What we teach here is what always works with every good quality razor, stone and strop. My suspicion is that your technique works this time but won't work time and again, sort of beginner's luck.

    At the end of the day there's only one thing that counts: if you get satisfying shaves honing and stropping your razor the way you do it, that's great. Enjoy your shaves. If you manage to keep your razor shaving well and don't have to hone it after each shave you are doing a great job and we were dead-wrong.

    If you continue to strop the way you do with the amount of slack your vid shows, my recommendation would be you put approx. 99.9% of the pressure on the spine of the razor and not to push the edge against the strop too much.

    BTW IMHO you do not need a leather strop. Linen only works great IME. But many here will not agree with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees View Post
    This place is full of exeperienced and benevolent members. You were criticised because we wanted to help you, not to make you feel bad. Looking at the pictures and video again I suspect that you roll the edge when stropping by the combination of pressure and slack. My suspicion is that you created a rolled edge, AKA a wire edge that manages to catch the hair and cut it. However the edge is not sharp enough to cut a piece of toilet paper.
    Most members here would not be satisfied with such an edge, would want a sharper edge. However we have had members before breadknifing the edge to slightly dull the edge and get a better shave.
    What we teach here is what always works with every good quality razor, stone and strop. My suspicion is that your technique works this time but won't work time and again, sort of beginner's luck.

    At the end of the day there's only one thing that counts: if you get satisfying shaves honing and stropping your razor the way you do it, that's great. Enjoy your shaves. If you manage to keep your razor shaving well and don't have to hone it after each shave you are doing a great job and we were dead-wrong.
    I know that my usage is different from the traditional, but not every linen strop, different materials will have different results? Once I thought of this problem, I tested it several times, and the results are some razors such as the video, the edge of my razor does not have a dull edge, but Aren't we in normalcy, some things have some results in different ways? And the toilet paper test, which passes when the edge is smooth, doesn't cut, and the HHT also passes, I'd say in the three months of the test, I know it's The way I want. Whether you want to use this way or not, the world is free, many anomalies are mostly wrong, and the way you haven't used it may result in different people.


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    This time I tested it with fine hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    I have seen that a few times but only those of us that hone professionally can get there
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    Professionally? LOL
    I'm keeping my amateur status so I can enter the honing category in the summer Olympics
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    I'm interested in those old wooden handle razors. Where was it made? How does it shave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP5 View Post
    TMILO

    I'm interested in those old wooden handle razors. Where was it made? How does it shave?
    This is probably a razor from around 1900, the type of Chinese razor at that time. The heat treatment of the steel is also razor-conditioned. At that time, the beauty of this kind of forging could not be compared with that of Europe and the United States, and the way of use was similar to that of the Kamisori Japanese straight shaver, but the difference was that the blade was FAUX FRAMEBACK left-handed or right-handed. Wood handle tail ball type, probably Indian razor, not recommended.

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    Thanks for the additional pictures! That answers my question about the grind.

    "Wooden handle tail bulb, probably Indian razor, not recommended"

    Sorry, can you elaborate?
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