Thread: Identifying some water hones.

Hello everyone!
Most of the times when looking about information about old hone I managed without need to ask around, but with those two I got stumped.
I would like to ask if anyone recognizes or knows something about these two.

First stone with generic label in English and imperial size of 3/8'', sadly logo is destoryed.

Second stone with generic label in German, googling the company yelded no results. I have a list of some old German companies with logo and company name abbreviations but it does not inlcude any called P&S. What is more problematic is the "Wassersteine", most of the time the noun used for a hone is Abziehstein or Schleifstein. Wasserstein seems to more of an aquarium stone, at least based on my recent googling.

Should anyone know something about those stones, please comment.
Thanks in advance.

Best regards

Nice! It's presumeably a Thuringian stone. Others may know more about the particular brand.

I speak sod-all German but my understanding is that 'abziehstein' might be translated as 'whetstone'. Whereas 'wasserstein' would be 'waterstone' - a stone that is used with water. To differentiate it from 'oilstones' - better used with oil.

The various brands of Thuringian stones are all quite emphatic about not using them with oil, so that will be the reason for making it clear that it is a Wasserstein.

Also - 'echte' just means 'original' or 'genuine'... something like that, and it says that it 'sharpens every blade'.

The company that produced it I guess is likely to be 'P&S', whoever they may be. Otherwise there's not much else I can see on the label that would be the name of the brand.

Thank you for your answers. Will label them as "probably Thuringian stones".

I really need to start doing some cataloguing work of my pa's stones.

I am not an expert but I do not think this is a Thuringian stone (I may be wrong though...) I know there are yellow/green/dark blue Thuringians but I have never seen a brown/reddish one. I hope Peter (Hatzicho) will shed some light on this. He's the one we need to find out for sure...

Yeah, could be the lighting, but looks almost red on my phone.
Doesn't mean it's not a good hone tho.
The chap on the label has almost severed his thumb right off, so can't be half bad... Hilarious advertising strategy.
Maybe that’s why it looks red.

I wonder if it could be man-made like a barber hone. The color matches up to some barber hones and the color does seem pretty uniform. Just guessing.

Do get us some pics out in the sunlight. The color will show.

I'd be 99% sure this is a Thuri. The label wording is exactly the same as almost all Thuringians.

Colour balance in the pictures is just a bit off.

I'm doubtful about it being a Thurigan...but who knows for sure.

But anyhoo... Here's a pic of the different layers of known Thurigan, hones.