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Thread: Next stone sugestion(s)?
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12-16-2022, 07:44 PM #11
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Thanked: 556I’ll third that.
I recently acquired a Naniwa 12k after years of finishing after a coti on either an oozuku, a vermio or recently a la lune to polish.
So far, relatively few passes on the 12k got me where many more passes on either of the naturals did. I have liked my natural edges, but always felt I could do more. The Naniwa edge looks much more polished under a loupe - quite different from what I see after the naturals. Not better or worse, just different.
I’m still figuring out how to best use the Naniwa, and the naturals for that matter. From what I have read, it can produce a very keen edge that might need to be softened a bit. Time will tell, but I now regret not purchasing that synthetic stone years ago. I could have saved a lot of money - probably not - HAD is a terrible affliction!David
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12-16-2022, 08:22 PM #12
A lot of folks do just that. Hone to the 12k, then to a natural for a few passes.
I myself sold all my synthetic stones cept my 1k chosera, and my snow white 8k
I prefer my Blue/Green Thurigan as a finisher. Synthetic edges are a bit crisp for my taste.Mike
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12-16-2022, 10:00 PM #13
Prickly for my taste too past 8k. Actually for a while I shaved right off 8k up until I got infected with terminal HAD. I still could I suppose except for that damn HAD monkey on my back. It's as much a curse as a blessing.
Even the Arks can be a little crisp and that Rosetta Matrix included. In fact this morning I pulled out a Wade and Butcher Special I just finished on a coti and put about 400-500 laps on it with that Rosetta. It actually abraded my face a little. Might need a couple of dry laps on the coti again to tame it a little.Iron by iron is sharpened, And a man sharpens the face of his friend. PR 27:17
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12-17-2022, 04:07 PM #14
I agree with gasman getting a a hard black from Dan's whetstones My face prefers the Ark edge over the coticule. I can't tell the difference in the shave between the edges produce by my translucent and a black. My recommendation would be to use a black Ark after the Coticule.
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12-18-2022, 04:02 AM #15
That's what's so horrible about hones, they all work, its a matter of how it feels to your face/skin that matters.
Heck...I've put edges on razors with a 3 line Swatty, that are as good if not better than the Naniwa. The thing about the Naniwa is its constant, and repeated results to "any" razor.
Its the best bet for anyone new to the game. From there its finding what's more comfortable thru exploration of other hones. Typically, Naturals.
Hell, some of us pick up rocks from flower beds n such, make a hone from it, see what it produces.
HAD works in multiple directions.
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A chunk of shale. Got lucky, it will produce a shaveable edge. Made another from the same pile of stone, and it was a no go. But that's Naturals for ya.Mike
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12-18-2022, 02:29 PM #16
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12-19-2022, 02:46 PM #17
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12-20-2022, 02:20 PM #18
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Thanked: 81Here’s another vote for the naniwa 12k. In addition to all the other points raised already in this thread, it is a big help when learning to hone to have a synthetic stone in order to get consistent results. If you’re not getting the results you want with a synthetic stone, it’s guaranteed that it’s an user error and not the stone. With natural stones, there are many other unknown variables, including the possibility that the stone is simply not capable of finishing a razor.