Thread: New Taidea Proyan glass series... Anyone did anyone else try these?

Originally Posted by therapy

Mrjin

I would be very surprised if your shot was burnt... It's holliday time too, so my best guess is that the person responsible for answering mails in English language is not there at the moment. As I know my mails get through, I will send them a mail too about this question, just to make sure it's not a firewall related problem. I remember the first mails I sent them, I was behind a VPN and had problems reaching them too.

Congratulations on your 30K, I'm sure it will be a fantastic stone!

Peter.

Thanks for following up with them. There can be lots of reasons why they did not respond, and there can be more reason why an email lost in transmission(I wasn't behind a firewall and have not received a transmission failure email yet but that does not mean the email wasn't lost neither). I really took that as a lottery, I saw the listing while I was looking for 0.1 diamond powder on AliExpress...

Not sure how soon I can receive the 30K, I bought it just to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole. Almost the end of a saga...

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

Just noticed yesterday that mine is now crazing. They are very minor cracks but still there. So far it has not affected the function.

That's exactly how mine behaved. Started with very minor cracks in the center, and then spread to other places. Now I have ~0.5mm cracks at the sides and corners. It's probably still good for knives...

I suspect it's the moisture got sucked in and the binder some how expanded unevenly.

Originally Posted by mrjin

Thanks for following up with them. There can be lots of reasons why they did not respond, and there can be more reason why an email lost in transmission(I wasn't behind a firewall and have not received a transmission failure email yet but that does not mean the email wasn't lost neither). I really took that as a lottery, I saw the listing while I was looking for 0.1 diamond powder on AliExpress...

Not sure how soon I can receive the 30K, I bought it just to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole. Almost the end of a saga...

Hi Mrjin

I got an aswer from Taidea by Alex Gui on friday, but just now discovered it, as it was in my junk mail. This is what is says:

Dear Peter,

Thank you for your email and for your thorough evaluation of the replacement hones.

I'm thrilled to hear that.

Your positive feedback and insights are truly valuable to us.

I greatly appreciate your dedication in testing the hones and provide a comprehensive review on the Sharprazorpalace.com forum.

Regarding the matter with Mrjin

I apologize for any delay in our response,I have a busy business trip this month.

We will contact Mrjin next week If we check our mailbox.

Thank you again for your commitment to our products and for highlighting the importance of reliable service.

I look forward to receiving your review in the coming weeks and to continuing our collaboration.

Best regards,

Alex Gui

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

Just noticed yesterday that mine is now crazing. They are very minor cracks but still there. So far it has not affected the function.

Hi Paul

When you first told me your stone showed some pitting when you first lapped it, I already feared yours would eventually show these small cracks too, because my first 15K behaved exactly as yours and my second one does not. I just want to let you know I still use mine and the cracks seem to slowly dissapear and for now don't return after lapping after each use. I only lap this often because of the cracks and as mine is VERY hard and you can hardly see it wear down. You just might give the lapping a try for a while.

Kind regards,
Peter.

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

What I found was that the jump between 8k (Norton) and 15k (proyan) seemed too big and the 15k did not perform well after the 8k but after 12k (sharpton) it performed quite well and all the prickly, overhoned feeling 12k sharptons are notorious for went away. I, however did find it noticably sharper but that was based on the shave and not on tests lol like the hht or others so that may be a little subjective. I have used it with slurry just about every time as mine came from Amazon with a little stone that looked like a small piece of a flattening stone. It seems to be sic as it is very hard as is my 15k. What surprised me most was how quickly it cuts for a high grit stone. Honing with slurry the slurry starts to show very dark swarf after only one or.two strokes and keeps getting darker with every lap.

Paul

I'm re-reading through this thread and must have missed this... Are you finishing on slurry with the 15K? I also have good results on using light slurry on this stone, but I always finish with at least 5 laps on clear water, so if you want to add sharpness, that is what I would suggest.

Kind regards, Peter.

Yes I have been diluting the slurry out. I basically always do no matter which stone it is. At the very end, once the water dilutes to clear I will wash off any residual from the stone and the blade and do some laps before cleaning up and stropping.

Originally Posted by therapy

Hi Mrjin

I got an aswer from Taidea by Alex Gui on friday, but just now discovered it, as it was in my junk mail. This is what is says:

Dear Peter,

Thank you for your email and for your thorough evaluation of the replacement hones.

I'm thrilled to hear that.

Your positive feedback and insights are truly valuable to us.

I greatly appreciate your dedication in testing the hones and provide a comprehensive review on the Sharprazorpalace.com forum.

Regarding the matter with Mrjin

I apologize for any delay in our response,I have a busy business trip this month.

We will contact Mrjin next week If we check our mailbox.

Thank you again for your commitment to our products and for highlighting the importance of reliable service.

I look forward to receiving your review in the coming weeks and to continuing our collaboration.

Best regards,

Alex Gui

Hi Peter,

Thanks for pushing this through, I really appreciate that. Still haven't heard from them yet. I felt it might really be the case the email was lost as I've checked everywhere, nothing relevant found. Never mind, I'm not in a hurry anyway.

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

Yes I have been diluting the slurry out. I basically always do no matter which stone it is. At the very end, once the water dilutes to clear I will wash off any residual from the stone and the blade and do some laps before cleaning up and stropping.

It's so much fun to see people doing the same thing in so many different ways. I typically don't use slurry at all, except that recently I got annoyed by scratches on the bevel so I used it to get a cloudy finish. Are you able to get mirror finish off the 15K? I was able to but now I'm not so comfortable to use it any more.

Originally Posted by therapy

Hi Mrjin

I got an aswer from Taidea by Alex Gui on friday, but just now discovered it, as it was in my junk mail. This is what is says:

Dear Peter,

Thank you for your email and for your thorough evaluation of the replacement hones.

I'm thrilled to hear that.

Your positive feedback and insights are truly valuable to us.

I greatly appreciate your dedication in testing the hones and provide a comprehensive review on the Sharprazorpalace.com forum.

Regarding the matter with Mrjin

I apologize for any delay in our response,I have a busy business trip this month.

We will contact Mrjin next week If we check our mailbox.

Thank you again for your commitment to our products and for highlighting the importance of reliable service.

I look forward to receiving your review in the coming weeks and to continuing our collaboration.

Best regards,

Alex Gui

Hey Peter, just to give you an update that Alex got back to me and asked my address so that he could arrange a replacement. I replied with the address and also asked him whether he could help to recall the problematic batch.

Look forward to receiving the updated version.

I've just received the replacement from Taidea. The working surface of the new one was much better than last one. However, there were still fair bit of lapping needed to get it ready to hone razors. Tried it with a pocket knife and it behaved almost identical to the last one, cutting fast, easy to clean. I'm curious to see how this one goes. Hopefully no issues.